Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th Aug 2007 19:56 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The second beta of Mandriva Linux 2008, codenamed Galilee, is now available. The release notes are available here. A guide to major new features (some of which are not yet implemented in this beta) is available here, and the detailed technical specifications are available here. This beta is available as a three CD or one DVD Free edition (containing no non-free software or drivers) for the x86-32 and x86-64 architectures, with a traditional installer. Future betas will be available in One live/install CD hybrid editions with proprietary drivers.
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Clawing it's way back
by SReilly on Sun 26th Aug 2007 10:47 UTC
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2006-12-28

...to the kind of mass recognition Mandriva (Mandrake) had when I first discovered it (as Red Hat with bug fixes) is going to take some doing.

Back in the early days, Mandrake was known as the easy to install/use/administer Linux distro. When every other distro had either hard to install free option (early free SuSe was an FTP installation only) or needed a computer science degree just to get X up and running, Mandrake was the forrunner. Centralized administration, witch soon included wizards for basic server setup, was a god send for both newbies and people looking for no nonsense.

Although I still like to hear about Mandriva, and wish them the best of luck, I find myself strangely reluctant to download and install one of they're recent offering. Why this is the case, I don't fully know and although I was very disappointed when Gael Duval was fired, I am hardly going to judge a distros technical merit on its companies human resource decisions.

I do remember quite a few people getting upset with some of the technical decisions Mandriva has taken over the years, not to mention, for a while at least, irregular update schedules. Also, with the option of PCLinusOS, as far as free operating systems go, I and quite a few others have found a somewhat better alternative.

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RE: Clawing it's way back
by porcel on Sun 26th Aug 2007 21:40 in reply to "Clawing it's way back"
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2006-01-28

I have tested PCLinuxOS over the last two years and always found it promising, but lacking. For instance, their recent final release would simply not start the livecd because the installer could not find the cryptoloop image that it used. I tried this on about five different computers.

I do have a lot of admiration for texstar and I used to install his Mandrake packages back in the day, but I don't like one-man shows. They are great for pushing a creative vision, but terrible from the point of view of creating a self-sustaining community.

Maybe, my characterization of PCLinuxOS as a one-man show is wrong, but it certainly fees that way. It seems that not that much independent development occurs within PCLinuxOS and they are always riding on the coattails of what Mandrake is able to do, which is perfectly legitimate, by the way.

Besides using apt-for-rpm, and they were not the first to this (Conectiva was) I would love to hear what else PCLinuxOS has really contributed to advance the state of the art of desktop linux and including more proprietary bits by default and better artwork doesn't count. I am asking about serious technical contributions.

Edited 2007-08-26 21:53

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