Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th Aug 2007 19:56 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The second beta of Mandriva Linux 2008, codenamed Galilee, is now available. The release notes are available here. A guide to major new features (some of which are not yet implemented in this beta) is available here, and the detailed technical specifications are available here. This beta is available as a three CD or one DVD Free edition (containing no non-free software or drivers) for the x86-32 and x86-64 architectures, with a traditional installer. Future betas will be available in One live/install CD hybrid editions with proprietary drivers.
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Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by Caraibes on Sun 26th Aug 2007 15:51 UTC
Caraibes
Member since:
2007-08-06

As much as Adam W. is professional and fair-play, I always why one would use Mandriva over Fedora ?

Fedora has more packages in its repos, more up to date, it is a very flexible RPM distro, and once the livna.org repos are enabled, you can download pretty much anything with yum...

Both Mandriva & Fedora release every 6 months...

With all due respect to the Mandriva people, what do Mandriva provide that Fedora doesn't ?

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RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Sun 26th Aug 2007 16:40 in reply to "Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
Excel Hearts Choi Member since:
2006-07-08

With all due respect to the Mandriva people, what do Mandriva provide that Fedora doesn't ?


Hey Caraibes,

I recognize you from Beranger.org. Anyways, KDE integration with Fedora is pretty bad. You manually have to run Pup to keep your system up to date, while under Gnome you will get a notice saying there updates to download. There are no QT equivalents to Pirut/Pup. I understand that this is the first release with KDE as part of the official release. I really don't know how to describe the difference between Fedora and Mandriva with respect to KDE except to say that it seems KDE was an afterthought with Fedora. Hopefully, they will do a better job as Fedora puts out newer releases. Also, nothing beats the Mandriva control center. It is too bad that only PCLinuxOS is the only other distribution that incorporates this feature. If you are into KDE, Mandriva is a much better choice.

Regards,
Patrick

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RE[2]: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by Caraibes on Sun 26th Aug 2007 17:30 in reply to "RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
Caraibes Member since:
2007-08-06

Well, both answers make sense... I realize that the situation seen from a KDE user makes Mandriva more attractive.

I am a Gnome user, and I sometimes use Fluxbox on lighter system... So I didn't take the KDE factor in consideration, so both of you guys have a valid point...

I must admit using Fedora only in my main box (because it is simply the best in that particular assembling of hardware), and Debian Stable on all y other desktops...

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RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by imapi on Sun 26th Aug 2007 17:01 in reply to "Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
imapi Member since:
2005-07-06

It's easy for me.
1. KDE is main DE for mandriva.
2. There is no ather like Mandriva's control center.

I'v tried to get used to Fedora but failed.

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RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by AdamW on Sun 26th Aug 2007 18:46 in reply to "Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

"Fedora has more packages in its repos, more up to date"

To my knowledge that's simply not true. There are substantially more packages in the official Mandriva repositories (over 14,000) than in the official Fedora repositories. As far as I know, Fedora has no official equivalent to Mandriva's backports repositories, which means we have a substantial advantage in providing up-to-date versions of software for stable releases.

"and once the livna.org repos are enabled"

You don't need such third party repositories on Mandriva. They exist, but are much smaller and less vital. This gives you the advantage of a more cohesive package base; you get 14,000+ packages that are all built on the official Mandriva build cluster by the official Mandriva buildsystem, against each other.

"With all due respect to the Mandriva people, what do Mandriva provide that Fedora doesn't ?"

Better KDE packaging, more configuration tools, more packages, official non-free repositories, backports...

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RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by porcel on Sun 26th Aug 2007 21:26 in reply to "Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
porcel Member since:
2006-01-28

1) Stability.

While RHES is a bastion of stability, my experiences with Fedora have been absolutely terrible.

2) Guaranteed security updates for 18 months on even free products.

3) A better control center.

4) A decent implementation of KDE.

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RE: Mandriva vs Fedora ?
by opkool on Mon 27th Aug 2007 14:22 in reply to "Mandriva vs Fedora ?"
opkool Member since:
2006-02-13

For starters:

*Both* Gnome and KDE get the same amount of support. Both work beautifully and both QT and GTK applications run in "the other" desktop fuly integrated.

Then, the number of official packages available on Mandriva is comparable to Debian. On Fedora you don't have as many packages officially available.

Also, Fedora is not that stable. Fedora's configuration tools are behind Mandriva's Control Center.

Fedora feels like testing ground for RHEL.

Mandriva feels like a real distro, not like a testing distro.

Peace

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