Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Aug 2007 22:21 UTC
Mac OS X The most recent pre-release build of Apple's Mac OS X Leopard operating system began making its way into developers' hands this past weekend, carrying with it a number of interface tweaks and a lengthy list of recommended testing suggestions. Screenshots and video clips taken of the new build, labeled Mac OS X Leopard build 9A527, show Apple to have reduced the transparency of the Mac OS menubar from previous builds, making it more opaque. Some developers had argued that level of transparency in previous builds gave the software - and Mac OS desktop in general - a cheaper, more rugged look.
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UGLY, overdone...grey?
by theGrump on Tue 28th Aug 2007 05:12 UTC
theGrump
Member since:
2005-11-11

been seeing more of these leaks...the 3d taskbar thing is ridiculous, more screen real estate lost to bling

http://bayimg.com/nAbicaaba

greyscale UI? UGLY, you can mod me down but you know this is going to be met with groans. "time machine" indeed...apple had better equip the time machine app to let the UI go back in time too

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RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by tyrione on Tue 28th Aug 2007 05:28 in reply to "UGLY, overdone...grey?"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Menu bar is gray due to the black backdrop behind the semi-opaque menu that creates a blend.

Very Openstep and non-distracting.

The 3D Shelf/Dock being that Gray makes the icons snap and the active blue light shine to make it clear it's a running process.

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RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by thryllkill on Tue 28th Aug 2007 10:35 in reply to "UGLY, overdone...grey?"
thryllkill Member since:
2005-07-08

"the 3d taskbar thing is ridiculous, more screen real estate lost to bling "

The default dock on the three versions of OS X I've used has always been too big. Lucky for me you can change the size in the settings. I would bet you can do this with the 3d dock too.

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RE[2]: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by thavith_osn on Tue 28th Aug 2007 12:12 in reply to "RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?"
thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

You can resize the new dock. I loved Leopard when using it, but the 3d dock is not that nice compared to the one in tiger. Having said that, there is a lot to like about Leopard. I'm wondering if the 3d dock is hinting at some other 3d changes to the finder?

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RE[2]: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by sultanqasim on Tue 28th Aug 2007 15:37 in reply to "RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?"
sultanqasim Member since:
2006-10-28

I always put the dock on auto hide. Also, after using Leopard for 2 months, I've begun to prefer the Leopard menu bar and dock.

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RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by biffuz on Tue 28th Aug 2007 14:45 in reply to "UGLY, overdone...grey?"
biffuz Member since:
2006-03-27

I like the new Dock (as long as you can like the Dock itself), but the new menubar is ugly.
Maybe the original idea was to match with the new iMacs, but they couldn't imagine that so much people finds it ugly, so they're trying to make it more appealing... but the iMacs are out, so they can't switch back to white.

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RE[2]: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by tryphcycle on Tue 28th Aug 2007 19:10 in reply to "UGLY, overdone...grey?"
tryphcycle Member since:
2006-02-16

"the 3d taskbar thing is ridiculous, more screen real estate lost to bling "

>>>>> obviously a comment from a windows user! i hear similar comments from other windows users regarding the OSX Dock. they seem to expect it to act like the "taskbar" in widows... reminding them, that they are NOT using windows... and providing them with a little OSX GUI insight usually silences their pro windows comments!

currently, setting the dock to auto-hide works GREAT! i am sure the 3d "DOCK" will work just as well while being auto hidden!

if you expect OSX to act like windows... you will get frustrated!!!!

1. Autohide the dock, and use it as a app launcher. (i choose NOT to minimize windows to the dock (like a MS Task Bar)
2. turn on expose and use hot corners instead of keyboard/mouse button (much better than minimizing windows to the dock...

there... you've got the finest, most productive GUI available on any OS!!!!

i look forward to 10.5....

Edited 2007-08-28 19:11

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RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by Tyr. on Wed 29th Aug 2007 01:43 in reply to "UGLY, overdone...grey?"
Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

been seeing more of these leaks...the 3d taskbar thing is ridiculous, more screen real estate lost to bling

http://bayimg.com/nAbicaaba

greyscale UI? UGLY, you can mod me down but you know this is going to be met with groans. "time machine" indeed...apple had better equip the time machine app to let the UI go back in time too


Yes, I've used Leopard for some time and it's like being back in the early 90's with all that dark grey. And now with the black & grey imacs the whole thing is going to look really dark :-(

I agree on the 3D thing too. It sort of makes sense if you've got the dock at the bottom of the screen, but put the dock at the side of the screen and it looks ridiculous (this is why there are no screenshots of Leopard with the dock in anything other than the default position.)

Edited 2007-08-29 01:43 UTC

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RE[2]: UGLY, overdone...grey?
by henrikmk on Wed 29th Aug 2007 10:32 in reply to "RE: UGLY, overdone...grey?"
henrikmk Member since:
2005-07-10

I don't mind the grey at all, as long as it's done in a sober and clean fashion, like the original NeXTStep interface or the current iTunes. What I do mind is that the dock and the menu bar, so easily appears busy, because they are affected by the environment around them using transparency and reflections. If the menu bar was a plain solid iTunes matching gray, there wouldn't be any problems at all.
I think their new aluminum-and-glass theme, is what Jobs really wants. He wants to match up the user interface with the current product materials and the UI guys are sweating over it and just fail to get it right.

The dock is reflective. Why is it again that people don't want glossy screens many times? Well, that would be to avoid reflections...

I don't get it. The iPhone has a very pretty and well done interface. Why didn't they just copy that, if they really have to change things for the sake of changing them?

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