Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Aug 2007 22:21 UTC
Windows A curious network performance reduction noticed by many Windows Vista users of the 2CPU forum that became the talk of Slashdot last week has been identified as having been caused not by DRM, as Slashdot users expected, but by a curious prioritization 'feature' of Vista that's intentionally biased toward Media Player at the expense of network and system resources.
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RE[4]: Good and Bad
by Kroc on Tue 28th Aug 2007 12:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Good and Bad"
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

My point is that being late to the game isn't exactly worth celebrating, especially with Vista's under-performance in every other area compared to XP.

CoreAudio being here ages ago doesn't mean that Vista's sound stack is irrelevant, but that Microsoft have been holding back the industry, and still largely, are.

The start-up sound digg is a hit at Vista's atrocious performance on anything but high end equipment. If you're a Vista user, go to a shop and try out Mac OS. Regardless if you don't like OS X, try starting it up and shutting it down and that'll give you some perspective at what an absolute arse Vista is for performance, good hardware or not.

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RE[5]: Good and Bad
by google_ninja on Tue 28th Aug 2007 15:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Good and Bad"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

CoreAudio being here ages ago doesn't mean that Vista's sound stack is irrelevant, but that Microsoft have been holding back the industry, and still largely, are.


Serious audio production has been done on macs with pro tools as far back as I can remember. Thats not saying that it can't be done on windows, but every sound engineer i have ever run accross has had a mac (just like how even though adobe cs on windows is just fine, every serious illustrator i have ever run accross has a mac). While vista's multimedia api overhaul has been a long time coming, I don't think the industry was suffering too terribly much.

The start-up sound digg is a hit at Vista's atrocious performance on anything but high end equipment. If you're a Vista user, go to a shop and try out Mac OS. Regardless if you don't like OS X, try starting it up and shutting it down and that'll give you some perspective at what an absolute arse Vista is for performance, good hardware or not.


Ever since the patches a few weeks ago, vista's startup and shutdown on my machine takes about as long as osx on my buddys macbook pro (which has comparable specs). Not only that, but boot time has nothing to do with performance, it has to do with how the boot process is done. On a modern rig, XP boots in under 20 seconds, while a new linux can take upwards of a minute to a minute and a half, even though the throughput on linux is much higher then xp.

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RE[6]: Good and Bad
by chris_dk on Tue 28th Aug 2007 16:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Good and Bad"
chris_dk Member since:
2005-07-12

On a modern rig, XP boots in under 20 seconds, while a new linux can take upwards of a minute to a minute and a half, even though the throughput on linux is much higher then xp.

Booting Ubuntu 6.10 takes 39 seconds on my Pentium III laptop.

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RE[6]: Good and Bad
by netpython on Tue 28th Aug 2007 16:41 in reply to "RE[5]: Good and Bad"
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

while a new linux can take upwards of a minute to a minute and a half, even though the throughput on linux is much higher then xp.

My archlinux box see specs below boot in less than 18s. Ofcourse with only what's needed turned on.

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 12
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 2200.157
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow up ts fid vid ttp
bogomips : 4403.05
clflush size : 64

2.6.23-rc3-gd1caeb02-dirty #3 SMP Sat Aug 25 18:20:07 CEST 2007 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

You will agree 2.6.23 is fairly new:P

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