Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Aug 2007 15:57 UTC, submitted by luna6
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "This article will briefly discuss the new features found within Gutsy Gibbon and hopefully give you a better idea of what to expect when the final version of Gutsy Gibbons is released in October. Some of the more notable new features are a Graphical Configuration tool for X, improvements in plug-in handling for Mozilla Firefox, revamped printing system with PDF printing by default, fast user switching, new desktop search (Tracker) application and the new AppArmor security framework."
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RE[2]: Ubuntu & Kubuntu
by jboss1995 on Tue 28th Aug 2007 16:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Ubuntu & Kubuntu"
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Your ready to fight, you need to see a Doctor about that! I would like to just see Kubuntu get as much effort as they put in to Ubuntu. None of the new stuff has any thing to do with Kubuntu.

Edited 2007-08-28 16:53

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RE[3]: Ubuntu & Kubuntu
by apoclypse on Tue 28th Aug 2007 17:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Ubuntu & Kubuntu"
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That's true but the Kubuntu distro is usually put together by a different team, they could work on polishing the distro themselves. They just don't have the resources that Ubuntu has, eventhough they've been brought under the ubuntu umbrella officially. I also think that the Kubuntu team is banking on KDE4 since they are releasing packages as soon as they come out. The issue is the same that has been stated here before, it is hard to sync development with KDE when they don't release on a timetable. Gnome releases like clockwork even if it is to their detriment. This is also why their releases are so understated and usually not very impressive at first glance.

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RE[4]: Ubuntu & Kubuntu
by g2devi on Tue 28th Aug 2007 18:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Ubuntu & Kubuntu"
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> it is hard to sync development with KDE
> when they don't release on a timetable

That's something that's entirely doable by KDE. All they need to do is change their "release when enough features come in and they're stable enough" release planning to "have regular releases with whatever new features that are stable enough to make the cut and postpone unstable features until they're done" release planning. The KDE team doesn't seem interested in following through on this change, despite the advantages. The key fears, I understand, are:

(1) With timed releases, you have to cut "almost finished" features until the next release, even though delaying you can get the feature "if you only waited a month or two". This results in releases that aren't as spectacular since improvement is more incremental.

(2) Large architectural improvements will have to be spread over more releases than would otherwise be the case since the "break everything and then get things working 'the right way'" philosophy is just too risky for a single fixed release.

(3) If releases become common-place, there won't carry as much press impact.

(4) If releases are less impactful and common-place so that distros make their plans and achieve greater impact, people will stop anticipating KDE release and start anticipating distro releases. Distros will get most of the credit of KDE developer's hard work.

These fears are valid, as confirmed by GNOME's releases (which followed the KDE model until the 2.x branch), but, IMO, the advantages far outweighed the disadvantages.

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