Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Aug 2007 01:00 UTC
Intel "Today's launch of the latest version of Intel's vPro platform is a much bigger deal than you might think, with implications for end users that extend far beyond the enterprise arena at which vPro is initially aimed. The 2007 version of vPro represents the culmination of two of Intel's most ambitious and important plans for the PC platform: the transformation of x86 into a fully virtualizable ISA complete with virtualized I/O, and the first fully-complete implementation of all the parts of Intel's controversial contribution to 'trusted computing' technology, formerly codenamed 'LaGrande' but now called Trusted Execution Technology. Let's take a look at the new vPro and what its new virtualization and 'trusted computing' capabilities mean for ordinary users."
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RE: vpro summary
by lemur2 on Wed 29th Aug 2007 06:16 UTC in reply to "vpro summary"
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2007-02-17

I can see AMD using this as a positive point of differentiation between them and Intel. "AMD and Linux leave YOU in control of your desktop."


AFAIK, AMD are just as keen on TPM as Intel is.

as a potential technological enabler of more effective DRM, it's also the ideal companion to Blu-ray and HD DVD, and a godsend to Big Content. Look for it across the rest of Intel's desktop and portable line by the end of 2008 and prepare to kiss fair use goodbye


So who is goiing to line up to buy hardware that someone else controls?

This just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm hoping a Chinese company might prduce a motherboard sporting an ULTRASPARC T2.
http://www.sun.com/featured-articles/2007-0807/feature/index.jsp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UltraSPARC_T2

Apparently Sun has plans to release the hardware design under the GPL.

Linux would really fly on that thing ... and yes, you would be in control of your desktop.

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RE[2]: vpro summary
by lemur2 on Wed 29th Aug 2007 07:07 in reply to "RE: vpro summary"
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2007-02-17

Apparently Sun has plans to release the hardware design (of ULTRASPARC T2) under the GPL.


Here it is:
http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/08/28/sun_ultrasparc_t2_processo...
Sun plans to release source code for the UltraSPARC T2 processor to the OpenSPARC community and the UltraSPARC T2 processor design to the open source community through the GPL license.


I knew I'd seen it somewhere.

Now there is a design which you can be asured that your hardware is on your own side.

Sun has announced the UltraSPARC T2, which it has dubbed the world's fastest commodity microprocessor.


I like the sound of that.

The UltraSPARC T2 processor will be available in production quantities this quarter, with prices starting below $1,000, and licensing options for derivative works.


That doesn't sound TOO bad.

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RE[2]: vpro summary
by UglyKidBill on Wed 29th Aug 2007 12:07 in reply to "RE: vpro summary"
UglyKidBill Member since:
2005-07-27

So who is goiing to line up to buy hardware that someone else controls?

This just doesn't make sense to me.


About a gazillion people who doesn't know what they buying, with the help of a gazillion people who doesn't care what they're selling as long as they profit, I'm afraid.

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RE[2]: vpro summary
by psychicist on Wed 29th Aug 2007 14:15 in reply to "RE: vpro summary"
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2007-01-27

It's partially because of these tendencies that I have ported my favourite Linux distribution (Slackware) to MIPS (Loongson 2E) and SPARC (UltraSPARC II) and it flies on my relatively slow hardware.

I and many others will be totally free from both Intel and AMD. There is a Chinese company creating an UltraSPARC T1 derivative (http://www.polarismicro.com) and SRISC (http://www.srisc.com) has done the same thing

And of course there is the Loongson processor, which already performs admirably at 660 MHz. This is the official Chinese processor developed by ICT (Institute for Computing Technology) of CAS (Chinese Academy of Science).

Very soon Loongson 2F will be available in multiple systems from Lemote and next year Loongson 3 will cause mayhem with its 16 cores in workstation, servers and supercomputers. The Tile64 processor doesn't look that bad and neither does Cell.

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RE[3]: vpro summary
by shapeshifter on Wed 29th Aug 2007 20:33 in reply to "RE[2]: vpro summary"
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2006-09-19

And of course there is the Loongson processor, which already performs admirably at 660 MHz. This is the official Chinese processor developed by ICT (Institute for Computing Technology) of CAS (Chinese Academy of Science).


Yeah, the Chinese are so much more trustworthy than Intel. Give me a break.
The only way to do anything about anything in a market economy is a publicity (the Internet is great for that) and boycotting products.
When company sees its sales drop, the bean counters take notice and changes happen.
Besides, I'd bet that the TC chip will be controlled by the bios, with enable and disable, just like it was with the P3 id number (or whatever it was called).

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RE[3]: vpro summary
by kaiwai on Wed 29th Aug 2007 22:40 in reply to "RE[2]: vpro summary"
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2005-07-06

There are loongson equiped laptops, the unfortunately thing, it isn't available overseas/outside China.

Its nice having cmopetition but the reality is, the world is moving to laptops. The only real viable alternative in that case is the VIA processor.

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RE[2]: vpro summary
by aliquis on Wed 29th Aug 2007 17:10 in reply to "RE: vpro summary"
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2005-07-23

Sparc are already open, isn't it? That haven't give us more cpus before, why would it now? Also it won't help that much with actually producing it I'm told.

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RE[3]: vpro summary
by kaiwai on Wed 29th Aug 2007 23:02 in reply to "RE[2]: vpro summary"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Sparc are already open, isn't it? That haven't give us more cpus before, why would it now? Also it won't help that much with actually producing it I'm told.


Right now it is now being aimed at niches; so far there are have been a couple of networking and I think a printer company who have signed up for it.

Ultimately what is required is a champion - an Intel sized company, or even something like VIA, who are willing to embrace the chip.

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