Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Aug 2007 23:12 UTC
Microsoft is finally talking about the much-anticipated first service pack for Windows Vista and will release the first beta to a select group of about 15,000 customer and partner testers within the next few weeks. The software maker will release the beta for Windows XP Service Pack 3 at the same time. Microsoft acknowledged Aug. 29 that it has already shared beta previews of Windows XP SP3 and Vista SP1 with small group of testers, a fact it refused to admit until recently despite numerous leaks on the Internet.
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I'm more then a little worried. The success of an SP2 install was anyones guess on XP unless it was on a vanilla install, or even better, slipstreamed.
Its success or failure had less to do with Microsoft and more to do with the software/hardware/driver combination that exists on the end users computer.
I find it humorous when people are willing to ride shotgun on the Microsoft hating bandwagon whilst ignoring computers a bloody complex machines with various points of failure - many outside the operating system vendors control.
Vista really showed us both the dedication of MS to backwards compatibility, and the overall lazyness of windows software development houses. If people used the APIs they should have since 2k, there would have been no problems.
True. I think the biggest problem is how willing Microsoft is to hand out the 'Windows Vista' sticker to software vendors; Windows Vista shouldn't just mean 'it runs' it should mean 'does not use any old/depreciated system calls' and 'does not use any compatibility shims to get things working'.
When you set the bar low, the software vendors will only ever do enough to meet that bar, and nothing more.
RE[3]: Little worried...
by google_ninja on Thu 30th Aug 2007 04:37
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Member since:2006-02-05
Its success or failure had less to do with Microsoft and more to do with the software/hardware/driver combination that exists on the end users computer.
I think it mostly had to do with software and the general cruft that xp would accumulate over time. My point was that back when SP2 came out, I had to reinstall windows, and I really hope vista sp1 doesnt require the same thing.
I find it humorous when people are willing to ride shotgun on the Microsoft hating bandwagon whilst ignoring computers a bloody complex machines with various points of failure - many outside the operating system vendors control.
I'm sorry, I couldn't help laughing at this. I used to get accused all the time of being on the microsoft hating bandwagon in places like this. Since Vista came out and I actually liked it, the exact opposite has been happening.
We all know that big updates can trash a machine, no matter what OS you use. However, XP SP2 did it fairly consistantly.
True. I think the biggest problem is how willing Microsoft is to hand out the 'Windows Vista' sticker to software vendors; Windows Vista shouldn't just mean 'it runs' it should mean 'does not use any old/depreciated system calls' and 'does not use any compatibility shims to get things working'.
I have to say, I have been nothing but impressed by HP. Bought a pavilion dv9000 a few weeks after the Vista launch, and I have had absolutely none of the problems that seem to constantly been plaguing the general population. Performance, stability, and responsiveness are all far beyond what I was expecting from an OS a week out of the gate.
RE[2]: Little worried...
by polaris20 on Thu 30th Aug 2007 18:28
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Member since:2005-07-06
I'm more then a little worried. The success of an SP2 install was anyones guess on XP unless it was on a vanilla install, or even better, slipstreamed.
Huh? I've installed SP2 so many times in the past couple years it's impossible to count, and I've encountered problems maybe 3 or 4 times max.
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2006-02-05
I'm more then a little worried. The success of an SP2 install was anyones guess on XP unless it was on a vanilla install, or even better, slipstreamed.
Vista really showed us both the dedication of MS to backwards compatibility, and the overall lazyness of windows software development houses. If people used the APIs they should have since 2k, there would have been no problems.