Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Aug 2007 20:14 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Windows "The first service pack for Windows Vista is slated for release to manufacturing in the first quarter of 2008. The announcement was made via Microsoft's Windows Window Vista Blog by Nick White, a product manager at Microsoft. We got a chance to sit down with White to talk about SP1."
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Windows/Linux
by hussam on Fri 31st Aug 2007 07:54 UTC
hussam
Member since:
2006-08-17

I'm getting a bit tired of people who bash Vista. I hope no one gets offended by what I want to say. I haven't tried Vista because I don't use windows but unless you don't have the hardware to run Vista, don't go around saying bad things about it.
I'm not a fan of MS, but I doubt they would have released Vista if it were inferior to XP. Howerver buggy it might be, Vista *IS* definitely better than XP, period. As for bug fixes, isn't that what service releases are for?
If you expect a zero bugs product, then don't expect more than one release every 20 years.
Both windows and Linux are as buggy as hell. Just check what laptop users are saying about Linux 2.6.22!

Also for people who keep whining how they are forced to dual boot Linux and windows because of 'gaming' needs, that's not an argument. If you need windows, stick to windows. If you like Linux, stick to Linux. Unless your job requires that you run both operating systems, stop whining. The reason why new windows games aren't ported to Linux is that you're not willing to pay for the Linux versions of them.

RE: Windows/Linux
by WereCatf on Fri 31st Aug 2007 08:39 in reply to "Windows/Linux"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

uut unless you don't have the hardware to run Vista, don't go around saying bad things about it.

That's exactly the problem many are complaining about. Not everyone is willing to shell out cash for a new computer just in order to run a new OS. Besides, I don't have hands-on experience with Vista but I very much dislike things like reducing audio/video quality unless your hardware meets Microsoft's strict requirements..

Vista *IS* definitely better than XP

That's subjective. It depends on your point of view. From where I stand XP is the better one. Don't force your view on to others.

The reason why new windows games aren't ported to Linux is that you're not willing to pay for the Linux versions of them.

Umm...I would be willing to pay but there's no games around to buy! You know..it's kinda difficult to buy something that doesn't exist.

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RE[2]: Windows/Linux
by hussam on Fri 31st Aug 2007 09:07 in reply to "RE: Windows/Linux"
hussam Member since:
2006-08-17

Umm...I would be willing to pay but there's no games around to buy! You know..it's kinda difficult to buy something that doesn't exist.

I see your point but not any company is going make a product when they know only a few people will buy it.


That's subjective. It depends on your point of view. From where I stand XP is the better one. Don't force your view on to others.
Apart from Vista requiring faster/newer hardware (for performance/drivers), exactly why do you find XP better?

Keep in mind, I'm not defending MS here. I've been using only Linux for years now and I hopefully will never have to run anything compiled by MS anymore. Also my old AMD 2300+ probably can't run Vista.

It's just that most people just say XP is better than Vista without actually giving reasons other than drivers causing poor performance in hardware which shouldn't be a problem with new hardware. I'm not saying that people should buy new computers just for Vista but I don't believe hardware is a valid argument.

Edited 2007-08-31 09:20

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RE: Windows/Linux
by kaiwai on Fri 31st Aug 2007 10:41 in reply to "Windows/Linux"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm getting a bit tired of people who bash Vista. I hope no one gets offended by what I want to say. I haven't tried Vista because I don't use windows but unless you don't have the hardware to run Vista, don't go around saying bad things about it.


Like I said on my blog, people bash it because that is what all the 'cool kids' are doing. If you like Windows Vista, apparently ther eis something wrong with you - according to the 'cool kids'.

My laptop came preloaded with Windows Vista, and yes, I want to have choice; but given that my MiniDisc isn't supported, nor is my webcam, or my wireless card properly supported (along with plenty of other devices) I am stuck using Windows Vista.

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RE: Windows/Linux
by Soulbender on Fri 31st Aug 2007 10:50 in reply to "Windows/Linux"
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2005-08-18

"Howerver buggy it might be, Vista *IS* definitely better than XP,"

Since you just proclaimed you don't use Windows this statement does not carry any weight coming from you.

"The reason why new windows games aren't ported to Linux is that you're not willing to pay for the Linux versions of them."

Where's the evidence for this statement?
OT:
Who buy games anyway? With game piracy presumably rampant (or so we're told) how is the huge gaming industry staying afloat?

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RE: Windows/Linux
by stestagg on Fri 31st Aug 2007 17:32 in reply to "Windows/Linux"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Well that's not entirely true. I just shelled out £200 for a hardware upgrade to get a computer with a WEI of 4.9.
I installed Vista on the 23rd August, and, after an embarrasing meeting today where a client was treated to an array of program crashes, popups and bad performance, by tomorrow, XP will be running on it again, I want to reclaim my computer from Microsoft.

Software that I have had problems with in Vista x64:
Windows Licence Activation (Took 4 goes to work, gave useless errors)
Adobe Reader 8
Microsoft Silverlight (Failed install)
Microsoft Virtual Server
Microsoft Exchange (We tried to install this as part of a test)
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Microsoft Explorer
Sibelius
VMWare Server.

Oh, and did I mention performance?

p.s. 7-zip can uncompress a highly-compressed RAR file to the TEMP folder about 3x quicker than it takes Vista to just copy the uncompressed data from the TEMP folder to the destination.

Ste

Edited 2007-08-31 17:35 UTC

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