Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Aug 2007 19:48 UTC, submitted by diegocg
KDE The KDE project has delayed the release of KDE 4.0 by two months. "We, The Release Team, hereby announce that we are extending the KDE 4.0.0 schedule 2 months by inserting an extra 2 Betas, as follows: September 24: Beta3. October 22: Beta4. November 19: Total Release Freeze. November 21: RC1. December 5: RC2. December 20: 4.0.0 tagged. We feel that there are crucial elements of the release that need more development time. The feature freeze (less exemptions) remains in effect."
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RE[6]: This is for you
by SlackerJack on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 20:46 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: This is for you"
SlackerJack
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2005-11-12

Making something look like something if it's totally different is a contradiction, segedunum claims this and I have shown that Dolphin has features and a default layout that looks just like nautilus, He denies this.

If Dolphin is as different to nautilus as day and night as claimed how can I post a simple picture showing otherwise, no its not because you can make Dolphin look like it. The only thing thats not default in that shot is the information bar(to be picky the text under the buttons are off), the rest shows the widgets are practically in the same order and layout. The information bar is exactly the same as nautilus, file count and disk space readouts are at the bottom same as nautilus, actions in the same position, the information bar is named the same.

A "Clone", copy or sharing ideas call it what you will but Dolphin IS one of them when compared to nautilus which certain people deny, I have shown otherwise so point made.

Edited 2007-09-03 20:48

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RE[7]: This is for you
by smitty on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 21:11 in reply to "RE[6]: This is for you"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

Making something look like something if it's totally different is a contradiction

Of course they aren't totally different, they're both dedicated file managers. They're both created for the same purpose, is it any great shock that they share certain design features? I can make the KDE desktop look nearly identical to Windows XP or OSX, but I'm not going to then claim that all 3 desktops are exactly the same.

The only thing thats not default in that shot is the information bar

Default as of when? The KDE4 version is still under heavy development, and as far as I know the final default view hasn't been established yet.

I'm not going to argue for segedunum, but I think KDE4 Dolphin is closer to Konqueror than it is to Nautilus, just because of all the different stuff you can do with it that you can't in Nautilus. The UI is certainly closer to Nautilus, but a lot of that is just all the non-file management stuff stripped out, plus a few good ideas "stolen" from Nautilus.

Edit: And I still don't understand what point you're trying to make. That Dolphin stole a few ideas from Nautilus? That it's a blatant copy? That there's no reason to use it when you can use Nautilus instead? That they've finally got the UI right? Just that segedunum is stupid? None of the above?

Edited 2007-09-03 21:15

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RE[8]: This is for you
by SlackerJack on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 21:30 in reply to "RE[7]: This is for you"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

To show that the KDE fanboys can't have their cake and eat it, take it as you will. Some people deny ideas and shared ideas ever came from GNOME, i'm here to put that right.

I dont know why I bother, OSnews most of the time is a hang out for KDE fanboys that have nothing better to do than mod each other up and claim it's the best DE ever. Sad really considering it counts for nothing.

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RE[7]: This is for you
by segedunum on Tue 4th Sep 2007 08:34 in reply to "RE[6]: This is for you"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Making something look like something if it's totally different is a contradiction

What is this supposed to mean in English?

segedunum claims this

Since the above doesn't actually mean anything, I'm claiming what, exactly?

If Dolphin is as different to nautilus as day and night as claimed how can I post a simple picture showing otherwise...

All it proves is that you can show that file managers look like each other. Look everyone. Water is actually wet!

What it doesn't prove, as you are haplessly trying to claim, is that Dolphin has copied verbatim from Nautilus. Do the same comparison with Windows Explorer and Apple's Finder to show the stupidity of your argument ;-). Breadcrumb links? Big deal. They have them. Dolphin also has drop-down URLs that Nautilus doesn't have.

Does Nautilus look, or do anything like, this?

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/08/11880/

Can Nautilus do anything like that? The answer is no.

Smitty's links also prove that the current screenshots of Dolphin look absolutely nothing like what you've posted.

You just cannot seem to understand for the life of you that all you're arguing is that file managers, including Dolphin, have a similarity to each other. It proves absolutely nothing else.

Edited 2007-09-04 08:43

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