Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 21:43 UTC, submitted by Mark Wielaard
Java Just in time for Fedora 8 test 2 IcedTea has landed in Fedora RawHide. The IcedTea project provides a harness to build the source code from the Sun OpenJDK project using Free Software build tools (gcj) and provides replacements for the non-free binary plugs with code from the GNU Classpath project. Installing this experimental GPL Java platfom is now as easy as yum install java-1.7.0-icedtea. In addition, Sun has promised to provide a Test Compatibility Kit soon so people can see how 'officially Java' this package really is.
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hmmm
by poundsmack on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 23:22 UTC
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2005-07-13

maybe this is just me being ignorant of the situation but, didnt sun open source there java run time environment? and if so why not simply include that instead of a hybid merger with classpath? why settle for an imposter when you can have the real thing? (nohting against classpath)

RE: hmmm
by Lunitik on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 23:34 in reply to "hmmm"
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2005-08-07

Too ignorant to actually read the article, at least... even the summary of the article states the reason this is necessary... "provides replacements for the non-free binary plugs"...

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RE: hmmm
by binarycrusader on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 23:35 in reply to "hmmm"
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2005-07-06

maybe this is just me being ignorant of the situation but, didnt sun open source there java run time environment? and if so why not simply include that instead of a hybid merger with classpath? why settle for an imposter when you can have the real thing? (nohting against classpath)


Because as the news snippet states, there are some portions that are binary only. Sun was only able to open the source for the portions that they had the rights to do so. Some parts (such as Java2D, and font rasterisation) were under 3rd party licenses.

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RE[2]: hmmm
by poundsmack on Tue 4th Sep 2007 00:56 in reply to "RE: hmmm"
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2005-07-13

my appologies, i admitidly glanced over it without reading that point. disregaurd my first post.

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RE[2]: hmmm
by kaiwai on Tue 4th Sep 2007 02:35 in reply to "RE: hmmm"
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2005-07-06

Because as the news snippet states, there are some portions that are binary only. Sun was only able to open the source for the portions that they had the rights to do so. Some parts (such as Java2D, and font rasterisation) were under 3rd party licenses.


I'd assume such things could be accomplished using things like Cairo/Freetype to plugin some of the gaps?

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RE: hmmm
by diegocg on Tue 4th Sep 2007 16:49 in reply to "hmmm"
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2005-07-08

Yes, Sun opensource Java just when opensource alternatives where starting to become usable.

You can't blame the guys that started all those alternatives for not wanting to kill their projects.

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