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GNU, GPL, Open Source Eric S. Raymond writes on his blog: "There's been a lot of debate in the community about how OSI should properly handle Microsoft's planned submission of some of its licenses for OSD certification. That debate has been been going on within OSI, too. OSI's official position, from the beginning, which I helped formulate and have expressed to any number of reporters and analysts, is that OSI will treat any licenses submitted to Microsoft strictly on their merits, without fear or favor. That remains OSI's position. But I find that my resolve is being sorely tested."
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RE[2]: Credibility
by eggman on Mon 3rd Sep 2007 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Credibility"
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Member since:
2006-05-09

Some of them, yes. ESR is one such example, although so far he's only full-out supported genocide on the basis of race and religion.

RMS, on the other hand, has proclaimed that those who "charge for software" (his words, not mine) are commiting "a crime against humanity" (again, his words, not mine).

These people are insane demagogues.

(And I'm not "chastened" by being voted down. The fasco-commies have always been quick always quick to silence truth.)

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RE[3]: Credibility
by archiesteel on Tue 4th Sep 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Credibility"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

If by "truth" you mean "off-the-wall rants", then you might have a point.

Can you please give the source for RMS' comment, please? You know, so we can see the context?

By the way, "fasco-commies" is an oxymoron. Fascism and communism are at opposing poles of the political spectrum.

I think you're mostly being dugg down because you do not respect OSNews' terms or participating in these forums (and for Godwinning threads). But perhaps you just enjoy wasting time writing stuff that nobody will read...

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RE[4]: Credibility
by MollyC on Tue 4th Sep 2007 00:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Credibility"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

"Can you please give the source for RMS' comment, please? You know, so we can see the context? "

From doing a web search, the articles regardign RMS's "crime against humanity" statement, seemed to be in response to a dev putting "timebombs" in his code to prevent it from being used by pirates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
"When Brian Reid in 1979 placed "time bombs" in Scribe to restrict unlicensed access to the software, Stallman proclaimed that "the prospect of charging money for software was a crime against humanity."[11]"


http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch06.html
"Brian Reid's 1979 decision to embed "time bombs" in Scribe, making it possible for Unilogic to limit unpaid user access to the software, was a dark omen to Stallman. "He considered it the most Nazi thing he ever saw in his life," recalls Reid. Despite going on to later Internet fame as the cocreator of the Usenet alt heirarchy, Reid says he still has yet to live down that 1979 decision, at least in Stallman's eyes. "He said that all software should be free and the prospect of charging money for software was a crime against humanity."8 "

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RE[3]: Credibility
by tpaws on Tue 4th Sep 2007 01:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Credibility"
tpaws Member since:
2006-06-02

"Some of them, yes. ESR is one such example, although so far he's only full-out supported genocide on the basis of race and religion."

What the h**l are you going on about. I was enjoying most of this thread until you showed up. Is this the writing of a racist?

http://catb.org/~esr/writings/racism.html

Reads a lot like something Bill Cosby would write. You also have not read anything by ESR, after all, how could you equate his discussions about "cultural-genocide" to actual genocide. You are in idiot.

Edited 2007-09-04 01:56

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RE[4]: Credibility
by MollyC on Tue 4th Sep 2007 02:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Credibility"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

"What the h**l are you going on about. I was enjoying most of this thread until you showed up. Is this the writing of a racist?

http://catb.org/~esr/writings/racism.html

Reads a lot like something Bill Cosby would write. You also have not read anything by ESR, after all, how could you equate his discussions about "cultural-genocide" to actual genocide. You are in idiot. "



tpaws, I hate to say this, but it while it is something that a "personal-responsibility" African-American might write, it also sounds like something David Duke would write, in attempt to present his rasicm in a socially-acceptable manner.

Now, taken on its own, I don't have much problem with that article (other than the patronizing of African-Americans by the all-knowing "white man" tone). But couple that with what I read in wikipedia, which I cited in my previous post, and it does not paint a pretty picture for ESR.

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RE[3]: Credibility
by dylansmrjones on Tue 4th Sep 2007 03:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Credibility"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Any link to such a statement from ESR?

He has never supported any kind of genocide!
He's clearly anti-Left as all libertarians are, but he is equally anti-Right.

IMHO, there isn't a single controversial post in his blog, apart from clear support for software patents. Apart from that it's pretty uncontroversial (unless one belongs to the militant Left).

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RE[4]: Credibility
by lemur2 on Tue 4th Sep 2007 03:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Credibility"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Any link to such a statement from ESR?

He has never supported any kind of genocide!


Well, I have to say, reading the link below certainly doesn't look good:

http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/2002_09_15_armedndangerous_arch...

ESR:
that's what we're going to have to do -- civilize the barbarians at the point of a gun.

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RE[4]: Credibility
by Soulbender on Tue 4th Sep 2007 05:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Credibility"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

there isn't a single controversial post in his blog


"think he is also right to say that our long-term objective must be to break, crush and eventually destroy this culture"

That's certainly offensive. Not to mention there's a lot of inaccurate bullshit (the majority of Muslims does not practice FGC, for example) in that post but that's pretty much par for the ESR course.

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