Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Sep 2007 11:48 UTC, submitted by abdavidson
Opera Software Opera has released an alpha build of their upcoming 9.5 release. "Following the release of Opera 9 last year, we re-wrote Opera's rendering engine for the coming Opera 9.5 release. As a result, Opera 9.5 contains more than a year's worth of speed, standards and performance improvements."
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RE[4]: a few niggles
by Dave_K on Tue 4th Sep 2007 18:21 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: a few niggles"
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And well, I have a gripe against any apps using BOTH menubar and toolbar since they duplicate same functionality. But well, considering how much features Opera boasts it's kind of understandable. I would appreciate anyway that apps would start choosing EITHER a menubar OR a toolbar, not both.

I don't really understand this gripe. Toolbars and menubars are designed for different purposes, and as such don't really duplicate the same functionality.

A menubar stores virtually every option in the application, categorised in a (hopefully) logical way to help the new user discover all those features. In most complex modern applications there can be dozens (or even hundreds) of menu options, far too many for a clutter free toolbar.

With the menu storing all those rarely used options, the toolbar can simply hold a handful of the most commonly used options. Options that you access so regularly that the extra time taken to open a menu would become significant.

Without a toolbar you'd lose that quick access, making the application slower to use. Without a menubar you'd have to clutter the toolbar with many rarely used options, again making it slower to access them.

To me it makes perfect sense to have both a menubar and a toolbar in the default GUI configuration. Of course if you don't want one or the other (or either of them) then they can quickly be turned off. There are plenty of people who just browse with mouse gestures and contextual menus, especially people who like to browse full screen.

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