Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Sep 2007 17:22 UTC, submitted by gonzo
Microsoft "Microsoft today released to the web Silverlight 1.0, a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering richer user experiences on the Web. In addition, Microsoft will work with Novell to deliver Silverlight support for Linux, called Moonlight, and based on the project started on mono-project.com."
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Open?
by chocobanana on Wed 5th Sep 2007 18:46 UTC
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2006-01-04

Now, can somebody explain me how open is Moonlight? It's something I haven't understood well so far...

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RE: Open?
by segedunum on Wed 5th Sep 2007 19:23 in reply to "Open?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Now, can somebody explain me how open is Moonlight? It's something I haven't understood well so far...

Well, like OOXML, it is as open as the file-types that you chuck down the pipe along with it, such as Windows Media. Microsoft has had a habit of turning Windows Media support on and off for the Mac like a tap - just because they can, and just for the fun of doing it to the Mac and Apple:

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/05/25/silverlight-brings-windows-media-str...

They seem to be positioning this as some sort of multimedia thing, with HD support as well:

http://blogs.msdn.com/macmojo/archive/2007/05/23/silverlight-excite...

You can bet your life DRM will be coming swiftly along with it given Microsoft's record with other things.

Should Silverlight take off in any way, shape or form in enough of a critical mass, watch Windows Media support disappear from the Mac again as quickly as a greyhound with the runs out of a trap. Since there is no Windows Media support for Linux (and if there is, they can soon change that), or anything else Microsoft chooses to throw down the pipe to Silverlight from Windows Servers, Moonlight would simply get squeezed into irrelevance. Microsoft have no problems with Moonlight at all ;-).

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RE[2]: Open?
by google_ninja on Thu 6th Sep 2007 00:16 in reply to "RE: Open?"
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2006-02-05

I disagree. They are trying to completely edge flash out of the market, and IMHO they are doing a great job.

1) Silverlight is more powerful then flash. Actionscript is ass, and .net is a great platform.

2) Silverlight is more performant then flash. I hate flash UIs, they are always sluggish and unresponsive. So far, all the silverlight I have tried is turning out to be the exact opposit.

3) Silverlight is delivers streaming media better then flash. HD content and far more advanced UIs is something alot of people have wanted for a long time.

If they restrict windows media playback, then flash becomes more attractive for content delivery, and they lose out. As much as DRM is a scary word to throw around, in this case there isn't much that would apply, beyond not allowing you to save the stream, which is standard in any streaming format.

As for no windows media on linux, first of all that is untrue.

"Currently offered plugins include Windows Media, MPEG2 and MPEG4, please contact us if you have other requests as more formats are continually being worked on. Needed muxing and demuxing elements comes as part of respective decoders and encoders."
http://www.fluendo.com/products.php?product=plugins

Secondly, if there is anyone that could get a broad windows media liscence onto linux, it is novell.

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RE: Open?
by Almafeta on Wed 5th Sep 2007 19:26 in reply to "Open?"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

Most of Mono uses the GPL v2 or the LGPL. It's not exactly free software, but it counts as shared source software.

(A few libraries use the MIT license.)

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RE[2]: Open?
by dylansmrjones on Wed 5th Sep 2007 21:34 in reply to "RE: Open?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

GPL, LGPL, MIT and so on are all free software licenses.

They are however not Shared Source.

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RE[2]: Open?
by marpaco on Wed 5th Sep 2007 22:39 in reply to "RE: Open?"
marpaco Member since:
2006-01-01

The bulk of all of mono is MIT X11. It does not get any more available than that. All of the source code is always available through the Mono Project's Subversion repositories that have anonymous access as well as ViewCVS (web based) access.

It is not Shared Source as would be Microsoft's Project Rotor from some years back.

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