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the great thing about adobe is that distros don't include adobe products. besides, all of their products have been reverse engineered / reimplemented over and over by truly neutral parties. i can ignore adobe. i'm peeved enough that almost every distro forces mono down my throat as a default install. with the mono developers' fingers in this, you just know it's going to end up as a default install.
i repeat myself: do. not. want.
frankly, i don't care if silver/moonlight *is* impressive. i don't want microsoft fingers fiddling in my business. at all. period. ever. i feel the say way about mono in general.
i'm tired of developers chasing a moving microsoft target. absolute zero innovation. miguel and his cache of followers are the one of the most devastating forces OSS has seen. i want innovation. i don't want "free" windows and its associated frameworks. think of the great things that could be created if these people weren't busy trying to photocopy everything redmond pukes up.
geez.
Edited 2007-09-05 19:19
Miguel and his cache of followers created the first free desktop for linux. When he started the GNOME project with his cache of followers, there was only CDE (ugly, proprietary) and KDE (which was also non-free at the time). That move opened the floodgates for a truly free linux desktop, and is one of the most beneficial actions OSS has seen.
Rich internet services like silverlight are not room for great innovation. They should be a commodity, and there is nothing better in a commodity space to have open competition - so innovation in content can take place anywhere, anytime. If your paranoid meanderings are gonna stop you from watching the future youtubes or interacting with services we can't even think of yet, all because you distrust a (currently pretty open) specification from microsoft, then that's idiotic. The Gnash devs don't hate flash/adobe, they just wanted to be able to use it openly and spent the time and effort to reverse engineer it. Now, because Microsoft is being 'cool' for a change, the Silverlight devs don't have to - all they gotta do is code.
Then use your keyboard to write some innovative software instead of whining on OSNews.
As a programmer, I welcome the ability to write a .Net application that'll run equally on linux and on Windows.
The .Net framework is the first Microsoft API that I actually enjoy using, it's a good thing that it becomes an option on linux as well.
Plus it takes away one of Windows' advantages on the server side: asp.net servers.
But if you're so annoyed by other people deciding what will be in the OS you use, maybe you should write your own. Who knows, it could be the next linux...
> Adobe has problems with Linux. Just look at how long it took to get flash 9 ported.
So Adobe has with with other OS not popular as Windows.
Adobe does not have the same amount of money to put in Linux than in Windows.
> Adobe is just as closed source as Microsoft.
Quite. But Adobe does not compete with Linux. This make a big difference.
Yeah they are just ignoring open source and this is because they aren't developing an operating system. So you're comparing apples and oranges.
>Adobe does not have the same amount of money to put in Linux than in Windows.
Adobe has got a monopoly of its own, they have got enough money. And if you pay them, like Sun, they even are developing Flash9 for Solaris. It's that easy.







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Silverlight is backend by MS.
Flash is backend by Adobe. Adobe don't have any problem with Linux. MS Does.
Adobe has problems with Linux. Just look at how long it took to get flash 9 ported.
Adobe is just as closed source as Microsoft. The only difference is that adobe for time to time releases some linux binaries (And with this move by Microsoft, you can bet Adobe will keep its linux client up to date).
Microsoft is doing the exact same thing as Adobe, with the exception that its using mono, which will actually make Silverlight run on more platforms than Flash. From what iv seen, they are in it for the long run, so we can expect it to be reasonably updated aswell.
Ofc, we could all ignore Microsoft's attempt at making silverlight cross platform. We can sit in the darkness when huge companies such as ABC and NBC starts to release content for silverlight, that we on Linux cant access. We can sit in the dark while Microsoft makes even more money selling Windows licenses, becuse linux users are forced to Windows to watch rich media.