Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2007 15:54 UTC, submitted by Josh Graham
AMD AMD has unveiled its first set of quad-core processors, three months after its original launch date. This 'complicated' design that resulted in the delay and puts the chip maker a full generation behind its archrival in terms of chip manufacturing processes.
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RE: Welcom back
by vimh on Mon 10th Sep 2007 17:08 UTC in reply to "Welcom back"
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2006-02-04

I like the "elegant" design as well however, I'll take the "hack" if it turns out to be the better performer. We'll see how things go.

I haven't looked at any bench marks yet, but I wonder if AMD pulls ahead as you scale up with additional processors?

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RE[2]: Welcom back
by SReilly on Mon 10th Sep 2007 17:38 in reply to "RE: Welcom back"
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2006-12-28

...but I wonder if AMD pulls ahead as you scale up with additional processors?

I'm kinda thinking the same thing. Alone the speed of minimizing the distance between the cores should be a factor, but you never know how these things pan out.

Intel has decided to go for the integrated design as well and if they can release a working integrated four core chip in the time frame that they have stated, AMD will be one full generation behind them, something we haven't seen for a long time.

But if Intel starts having the same problems as AMD had with Barcelona, we will probably see a good eight core processor release by AMD first.

No matter how it turns out though, a sixteen core x86-64 is only about three to five years away. I wonder how software houses are going to deal with the resulting processor based licensing nightmare? ;-)

It's all really exiting at the mo!

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RE[2]: Welcom back
by DittoBox on Mon 10th Sep 2007 17:42 in reply to "RE: Welcom back"
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2005-07-08

You can take the hack now, if it works with four cores.

But what happens when we move to 8? Does the hack scale better? Does the elegant design scale better?

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RE[3]: Welcom back
by phoenix on Mon 10th Sep 2007 22:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Welcom back"
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2005-07-11

Ars Technica has an interesting look at the 4-socket, 4-core offerings from Intel and AMD http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070905-intel-launches-tigert...

For setups that are mostly CPU-bound with FP ops, the Intel setup rocks.

For setups that are mostly memory-bound, the AMD setup rocks.

The graphics in the Ars article are the most telling. Until Intel comes out with CSI, AMD has it in the memory bandwidth department, and is gaining in the CPU processing department.

Single socket CPU setups, Intel rocks.
Dual-socket CPU setups, it's mainly Intel.
Quad-socket CPU setups, AMD rocks.

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