Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2007 20:24 UTC, submitted by hechacker1
AMD "This morning at the X Developer Summit in the United Kingdom, Matthew Tippett and John Bridgman of AMD have announced that they will be releasing their ATI GPU specifications without any Non-Disclosure Agreements needed by the developers! In other words, their GPU specifications will be given to developers in the open. Therefore you shouldn't need to worry about another R200 incident taking place. The 2D specifications will be released very soon and the 3D ones will follow shortly."
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s/amd/ati/
by elanthis on Tue 11th Sep 2007 03:49 UTC
elanthis
Member since:
2007-02-17

Well, there lies the problem. The R300 was meant to receive the 'full specifications' and every time the developers asked for more assistance and explanation, all they got in return from AMD was 'you've got it all, piss off and stop whining'.


You accidentally put AMD in there where you should have put ATI.

Used to be different companies, with different priorities and different strategies. ATI wasn't aiming for making CPU+GPU chips. AMD is. AMD has far more reason for releasing specs than ATI ever had. I'm not saying we're now guaranteed the perfect Free hardware treat, but don't confuse ATI's stupidity with AMD's management. Two different beasts.

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RE: s/amd/ati/
by kaiwai on Tue 11th Sep 2007 04:46 in reply to "s/amd/ati/"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You accidentally put AMD in there where you should have put ATI.


True, but at the same time AMD has done little to distance itself from former ATI decisions - no speech to announce a change in management.

Used to be different companies, with different priorities and different strategies. ATI wasn't aiming for making CPU+GPU chips. AMD is. AMD has far more reason for releasing specs than ATI ever had. I'm not saying we're now guaranteed the perfect Free hardware treat, but don't confuse ATI's stupidity with AMD's management. Two different beasts.


But at the same time - I ask, where is the source, the documentation? where is the website for all this to occur? where is the announcement on Xorg for collaboration. Look at what Intel did and compare it to AMD.

I know I'm sounding jaded and bitter but I can't stand companies who promise and fail to deliver, then fanboys coming out making all sorts of excuses as to why management at the company doesn't show an ounce of leadership.

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RE[2]: s/amd/ati/
by ThawkTH on Tue 11th Sep 2007 18:22 in reply to "RE: s/amd/ati/"
ThawkTH Member since:
2005-07-06

The community will lynch AMD/ATI if they don't follow through on this. Trust me. I think it would be nasty to say the least.

AMD hasn't done much to distance itself? Give them a break (and I rarely give ANY corporation a break!). They merged fairly recently. Two large companies, with some similar and many different markets.

AMD IS doing something different - we've asked for this FOR YEARS from ATI - a year after merging, they announce that they're going to do more than NVidia - not make a great driver. Release what we need to make a completely open driver.

And still people complain.

Truly, you can NEVER please everyone.

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