Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2007 21:01 UTC
In the News It does not happen every day that news related to computer technology - news we report on every day - makes its way to the headline news programs and newspapers here in my home country, The Netherlands. So when it does, I am usually on the edge of my seat, simply because it offers an interesting glimpse into how 'normal' people perceive our little world. The last few days, however, that casual interest has made way for something else - tooth gnashing irritation.
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RE: My own experience...
by jabbotts on Tue 11th Sep 2007 15:01 UTC in reply to "My own experience..."
jabbotts
Member since:
2007-09-06

"(yet, aggravatingly, they now advertise it as Vista-compatible)"

You may want to specify what the program it is that gives you issue on Vista.

"Open-source evangelists are preaching the use of open-source software where it is a completely inappropriate and wholly insufficient solution? Quelle suprise."

Overlooking the fact that the comment simply smacks of your own bitterness or prejudgement against FOSS, where is open source an insufficent solution?

Do you mean in business servers where it's still numbering higher than Windows, Unix and mainframe servers?

Do you mean in business workstations where it can be cusomized to a specific job role more than other OS? (unless the data input clerk *needs* an internet browser of course)

Do you mean in home desktops where it is more robust and provides the user with a far greater selection of software available through easy management GUI and console programs after being vetted by the respective distrobution maintainer?

I'm not sure I follow your logic there. I'd be curious to know what "inappropriate and wholly insufficient" issues you imagine with open source. I'm not a blind Zealot and am always interested to other's experiences provided they can be given with technical or specific examples and without a purely emotional motivation.

The only "inappropriate and wholly insufficient" uses I can think of are pushing DirectX only games and using specific Windows Only hardware. The first being caused by MS backroom deals and business choices by game developers and the second being caused by hardware manufacturers that sell too a specific OS rather than sell hardware seporate of a specific OS brand name.

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RE[2]: My own experience...
by polaris20 on Tue 11th Sep 2007 16:20 in reply to "RE: My own experience..."
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm trying to figure out why people keep ignoring business critical Windows-only software, as if it doesn't exist, or the multitude of media applications that do not run on Linux.

In those instances, of which there are many, Linux is "inappropriate and insufficient".

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RE[3]: My own experience...
by cyclops on Tue 11th Sep 2007 18:31 in reply to "RE[2]: My own experience..."
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

"I'm trying to figure out why people keep ignoring business critical Windows-only software, as if it doesn't exist, or the multitude of media applications that do not run on Linux. "

For Media playing GNU is simply a better platform with better players; with better players. These are optional and not a potential security problem built into the OS or with crippling DRM.

I actually liked this "critical Windows-only software". Sack them immediately. In todays world of internet applications; open formats; future-proofed open source. This is simply an unacceptable decision regardless of OS platform. There are *lots* of problems with with changing platform this should not be one of them. In reality removing software like this should be top priority.

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RE[3]: My own experience...
by jabbotts on Tue 11th Sep 2007 19:51 in reply to "RE[2]: My own experience..."
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

You sudgest examples which makes your comment valid.

No one outside of the Zealot minority says to not use Windows or a closed source program when that is the only solution to your problem. I was simply asking for the examples the initial post felt made Linux inappropriate. Heck, Mr. Stallman recommends using closed source when no other solution is available though only until one becomes available.

Too you, I'd ask; are you looking for specific functions or specific brand names of software? Some functions are only offered by specialized software such as Adobe and for the minority of users who can truly use Photoshop's advanced features the decision is either Windows or osX. My education used VB and VC++ and ColdFusion as programming training aids so until recently picking up PHP my decision was limited to Studio.NET if I wanted to code anything.

(oh damn is PHP slick, it's like discovering ColdFusion all over again but with more power)

In reality, there are far fewer instances where a function on one OS platform is not at all available on another software platform. Heck, I could do what I do with my prefered Linux distro on Windows or osX but in both the later cases, it wouldn't be nearly as easy to setup or constomize to my needs.

Business software is no different from any other software applications. Of course, if you choose Exchange Server then MS broken standards make a series of decisions for you resulting from that one groupware product (requires winServer, requires AD, requires Outlook which forces winWorkstation.. and such is the lock-in business strategy built.)

Mind you, something like eGroupware does 95% of what Exchange Server does plus a bunch of stuff it doesn't do and you can pick from five or more client programs that work seamlessly with it or just use a browser like most big busines apps are doing these days. Oh, and it runs on a *nix back end so you get the added efficiency and security. It's PHP based though so you could possibly install it over a winServer/IIS combo but that's like putting an Tuxedo on a steaming turd.

Cheers for the response though, I asked in my original post too get examples so you've added to the conversation.

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