Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:17 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Legal Microsoft suffered a stunning defeat on Monday when a European Union court backed a European Commission ruling that the US software giant illegally abused its market power to crush competitors. The European Union's second-highest court dismissed the company's appeal on all substantive points of the 2004 antitrustruling. The court said Microsoft, the world's largest software maker, was unjustified in tying new applications to its Windows operating system in a way that harmed consumer choice. The verdict, which may be appealed only on points of law and not of fact, could force Microsoft to change its business practices.
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Heres hoping
by Bit_Rapist on Mon 17th Sep 2007 17:09 UTC
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2005-11-13

I just hope that when the dust settles they are forced to deliver an OS that has components which can easily be removed.

I'm fine with MS releasing their own software with Windows, heck I think that bundled applications give the product more value for the consumer.

However I feel that the consumer should be able to easily remove the programs and use alternatives.

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RE: Heres hoping
by MollyC on Mon 17th Sep 2007 20:30 in reply to "Heres hoping"
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2006-07-04

"I'm fine with MS releasing their own software with Windows, heck I think that bundled applications give the product more value for the consumer.

However I feel that the consumer should be able to easily remove the programs and use alternatives."


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I don't know about Vista, but XP already has the "Program Access and Defaults" control panel, that provides a central place where the user can choose the default media player, web browser, email client, IM client, and JVM. And besides merely altering the default programs for these areas, the same control panel can even be used to block all access to Microsoft's own offerings in these areas. And OEMs can ship there systems using whatever default programs they want to use. (OEMs can't remove undrlying DLLs, nor does this control panel allow such an action, since those DLLs provide part of the Windows API. )

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RE[2]: Heres hoping
by Almafeta on Mon 17th Sep 2007 21:19 in reply to "RE: Heres hoping"
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2007-02-22

I don't know about Vista, but XP already has the "Program Access and Defaults" control panel, that provides a central place where the user can choose the default media player, web browser, email client, IM client, and JVM.


Vista uses 'Default Programs,' in the base of the Start Menu.

A bit too prominent of a place I think, considering how often you might use it (once or twice a year at most, only when some piece of malware or poorly-defined software changes your default applications without your consent, although Vista should prevent this with UAC), but it's quite obviously there.

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RE[2]: Heres hoping
by MollyC on Tue 18th Sep 2007 06:13 in reply to "RE: Heres hoping"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

"I don't know about Vista, but XP already has the "Program Access and Defaults" control panel, that provides a central place where the user can choose the default media player, web browser, email client, IM client, and JVM. And besides merely altering the default programs for these areas, the same control panel can even be used to block all access to Microsoft's own offerings in these areas. And OEMs can ship there systems using whatever default programs they want to use. (OEMs can't remove undrlying DLLs, nor does this control panel allow such an action, since those DLLs provide part of the Windows API. )"

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I see the kiddies are out in force modding down anything they don't like again. LOL Can someone tell me just ONE legit reason that the above was modded down? And no, that it goes against the "I Hate Microsoft" groupthink is NOT a legit reason. Same thing goes for my other posts in this thread that were modded down. Either counter what you disagree with or keep your mouth shut. But don't mod down for no legit reason.

IMO, the mod-abuse around here has skyrocketed since the moderation changes took effect, with inane one-line comments getting modded up to 20+, and other legit posts getting modded down to 0 and below. I think OSNews should consider getting rid of moderation altogether if it's going to be abused so much. Just my 2 cents.

On second thought, just leave it as is.

Edited 2007-09-18 06:32

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