Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Sep 2007 19:58 UTC, submitted by Adam S
Windows "Before I launch into my tirade, I need to make a confession. I like Vista. I use it daily, but I also use it with the full knowledge that it's a pre-service pack 1 OS from the boys in Redmond. That necessarily means it will have glitches, bugs, and annoyances. That's a given. I'm willing to put up with all those headaches. But there were several things I was really looking forward to in Vista that are simply missing in action or broken. These are features I'd really hope would improve my productivity and make life a little easier."
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nalf38
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2006-09-01

I get it, I just think it's amazing that any user would stand for it when this is implemented relatively seamlessly in Linux and OSX without a million-trillion-bagillion freaking UAC prompts. It's a big win for Windows, yes, but only for Windows. When you put it alongside with how Linux and OSX deal with user priveleges, it's a GIANT LOSER.

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makfu Member since:
2005-12-18

"I get it, I just think it's amazing that any user would stand for it when this is implemented relatively seamlessly in Linux and OSX without a million-trillion-bagillion freaking UAC prompts. It's a big win for Windows, yes, but only for Windows. When you put it alongside with how Linux and OSX deal with user priveleges, it's a GIANT LOSER."

Exactly how is it more seamlessly implemented in other platforms? On my ‘nix boxes I have to SU or get prompted for credentials for admin apps, utilities or global actions, JUST LIKE on Vista, but I have to carry out at least eight keystrokes for my password. Any other solution, such as a suid bit, trust this app or the “unlock” model that certain other systems use, are potentially dangerous and programmatically exploitable (see MOAB archives for examples).

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nalf38 Member since:
2006-09-01

Vista asks you for permission for a lot more than installing apps. I had to give Vista permission to allow my antivirus software to run, which I wouldn't have even needed on another OS. I had to give it permission to allow me to burn a CD; I think I even had to give it permission to play a CD. UAC even initially prohibited Diskeeper from running until I gave it permission.

Yeah, fine, suid bits are exploitable, but there has to be a balance somewhere. Vista's take on the situation seems to be that literally everything the user does is a security risk.

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