Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 20:52 UTC
Amiga & AROS At OSNews, we have kept you updated about the Amiga hardware announced by ACK controls. Supposedly ready for shipping in May, we are now in the second half of September, and still no hardware. Interestingly, nor ACK Controls, nor Amiga, Inc., will be present at the upcoming Amiga show Pianeta Amiga - leading to the inevitable conclusion that like so many other announcements in the Amiga world, this one was yet another big puff of air. All hope is not lost, though: ACube Systems has announced the SAM440ep, a PowerPC board, of which industrial versions are already available (according to ACube). The consumer version is supposedly ready to ship starting 22nd September 2007, and interestingly, Hyperion will be present at the ACube booth at Pianeta Amiga. Finally, new Amiga hardware? Seeing is believing, many will say.
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RE[3]: Change platform, dummy!
by twocents on Thu 20th Sep 2007 03:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Change platform, dummy!"
twocents
Member since:
2006-07-30

You know nothing of AmigaOS situation, do you?


You're absolutely right - I know very little about the Amiga except what I've been reading on a few sites regarding the Operating System specifically. Thanks for the additional info. Many years ago I had to decide between DOS, Amiga, Mac, AtariST, the Apples, etc.. went the DOS route at the time - no regrets until the Win9.x series...

On another post on these same pages, I noted that I was thoroughly impressed by the technical aspects of the OS itself (in comparison to all the other viable alternatives). I did look for support programs (which is outside the scope of whether an OS is well-built or not) and found many of them dated. I see that YAM is still seeing development (that's terrific) but THOR is pretty old - no big issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients

If the platform begins to move forward there appears to be much support for this platform from many old-time users - many of whom I have found to be quite technical.

I'm glad that the server stuff looks covered (apache, php, etc..) as well as the codecs (most of the codecs you listed I have on my WinMachine out of necessity).

About Rebol, I recently rediscovered it and have spent many days working with it. I'm fairly up-to-date but holding off a bit because their version 3.0 will be different from the 2.x series. Very exciting cross-development product and with Carl in charge, I see no reason why Amiga wouldn't be supported - though I should qualify my previous statement by saying that I hope that these technologies (rebol, apache, etc..) are shipped with the system out of the box (not they they aren't available). I happen to think that server software has arrived for all OSes.

Again, thanks for the update on 3rd party support apps. AmigaOS is one of the few OSes I'm keeping an eye on because I appreciate good technology for it's own sake (though I may soon be transitioning to FreeBSD but will always keep track of quality tech such as the AmigaOS).

I do find it kind of ridiculous to see so many childish attacks on the platform - apparently from people who insist on attacking any mention of alternative tech without actually looking at the technologies behind them. Sigh...

Edited 2007-09-20 03:43

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Raffaele Member since:
2005-11-12

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On another post on these same pages, I noted that I was thoroughly impressed by the technical aspects of the OS itself (in comparison to all the other viable alternatives). I did look for support programs (which is outside the scope of whether an OS is well-built or not) and found many of them dated. I see that YAM is still seeing development (that's terrific) but THOR is pretty old - no big issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients

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I knew of Wikipedia page comparing e-mail clints...

It was me adding Amiga programs into it... I noted the wiki-page lacks of any informations of Amiga programs and I wrote about these e-mal software, but I never had time to finish adding all informations about it, because I don't know all technical features, and so I don't know exactly what to write about Amiga software features...

Shame to me being such a lamer... :-P

See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_software

Again this page also needs to be polished and finished, and all Amiga programs should be edited with their own link and wikipedia article related to it...

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Raffaele Member since:
2005-11-12

Mr. twocents wrote:

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On another post on these same pages, I noted that I was thoroughly impressed by the technical aspects of the OS itself (in comparison to all the other viable alternatives). I did look for support programs (which is outside the scope of whether an OS is well-built or not) and found many of them dated. I see that YAM is still seeing development (that's terrific) but THOR is pretty old - no big issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients

[/quote]

I knew of Wikipedia page comparing e-mail clints...

It was me adding Amiga programs into it... I noted the wiki-page lacks of any informations of Amiga programs and I wrote about these e-mal software, but I never had time to finish adding all informations about it, because I don't know all technical features, and so I don't know exactly what to write about Amiga software features...

Shame to me being such a lamer... :-P

See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_software

Again this page also needs to be polished and finished, and all Amiga programs should be edited with their own link and wikipedia article related to it...

And here you can see a parade of Amiga software running on an Efika computer by Genesi, equipped with MorphOS...

http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/07/efika-morphos.html

Edited 2007-09-20 07:52

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twocents Member since:
2006-07-30

Shame to me being such a lamer... :-P


LOL! Seriously, though, you've done good work for the platform. Not many people take the time to update wiki pages or update another user with all the info you provided.

I'm hopeful that Hyperion can get it all together soon - I really like what I've seen from this OS (from the microKernel to memory management). I have to agree with the original poster of this thread... I don't think that the PPC is a compelling enough platform for users to consider a new OS (unless they had a line of hardware-based products to go along with it).

Years ago I used the hp200LX (handheld DOS machine which I still have):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_200lx

It was great to be able to run the same OS (and the same apps, same data formats) on different devices. I think Hyperion needs to rethink it's long-term strategy about where they want to deliver this product. As a pure gaming machine (ala PSP which uses CELL tech but are finding that high-end tech isn't always enough), a pocket PC/OQO style device, a subnotebook (like the ASUS Eee PC), a desktop for a niche platform, another OS in the now saturated intel/amd market, smartphone, embedded in a number of different products...

Given it's small size and speed - it's one of the few OSes suited to run on multiple vertical markets and varying powered hardware - unchanged (given the right platform) - similar to QNX in this regard. This is it's biggest strength. This is something Apple is doing very effectively (though additional work needs to be done to have it run on lower-powered devices).

Given the frustrated remarks from many long-time Amiga users, this platform and the company behind it really needs to stop everything they're doing and work on a clear attainable roadmap. How they're conducting business now is really working against them.

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