Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2007 15:22 UTC, submitted by JJ
SuSE, openSUSE The openSUSE development team has announced that openSUSE 10.3 Release Candidate 1 is available for testing. "After quite a few rebuilds and testing, the openSUSE team is happy to announce that RC1 looks brilliant and is now available for download. We consider this release to be feature complete, stable, and suitable for testing from any user. For more information on the release schedule, take a look at the Roadmap."
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RE[2]: When it's done.
by joeca on Thu 20th Sep 2007 18:58 UTC in reply to "RE: When it's done."
joeca
Member since:
2007-09-06

Hmm I've always had alot of problems with kubuntu. Konqueror would crash regularly, adept would freak out if compiz was running and drop to a window instead of staying in the system tray, not to mention the horrible layout of it's interface. No idea how synaptic can be quite nice UI-wise and adept equally horrible on the other end of the spectrum.

One last minor thing that annoys me is how kubuntu removes the option for opening a terminal window attached to konqueror in a split view. I think it's normally in the window pull down menu? It use to do this at least, I haven't checked it out lately. Or maybe this is a suse feature, no idea, haven't messed with any other distro's besides suse or *buntu in awhile.

Kubuntu just always feels like the ghetto wasteland of *buntu to me, kde on suse feels very polished and has great admin tools. The only things I'd like to see in suse are features like ubuntu has for restricted hardware enabling with one click, and multimedia retrieval when you play a mp3 etc..

1-Click install seems to be a good idea and helps in these instances but you still need to know where to look to find this package to begin with. I just like the fact that it's built into the ubuntu menu system.

Edited 2007-09-20 19:03

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RE[3]: When it's done.
by elsewhere on Thu 20th Sep 2007 20:00 in reply to "RE[2]: When it's done."
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

1-Click install seems to be a good idea and helps in these instances but you still need to know where to look to find this package to begin with. I just like the fact that it's built into the ubuntu menu system.


The 1-click install is available from the opensuse-community.org website, which will be a vast improvement over the process with previous versions.

Novell is, unfortunately in this case, a US-based organization and can't run the risk of making themselves a legal target by facilitating the circumvention of patented media restrictions, so it is not likely that they will ever be able to include a "click here for codecs" button. As long as they continue to look the other way while the community works at arm's length to facilitate this themselves (hence the creation of the opensuse-community.org site), then new users will not have to struggle to deal with this, despite the lack of a built-in option.

It's not perfect, just a hell of an improvement. ;)

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RE[4]: When it's done.
by joeca on Thu 20th Sep 2007 20:04 in reply to "RE[3]: When it's done."
joeca Member since:
2007-09-06

Yeah I know there is the package search engine, and the community site, and I've used both before, but they require a little knowledge/googling before hand. Ubuntu's solution does not.

Hmm I didn't really consider the fact about being US-based, however fedora (Redhat) is releasing a 'codec-buddy' which sounds very similar to ubuntu's solution, and fedora is sponsered by a US organization (Redhat) just as opensuse is sponsered by novell, so where does the difference lay?

Edited 2007-09-20 20:08

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RE[4]: When it's done.
by nelvana2005 on Fri 21st Sep 2007 14:08 in reply to "RE[3]: When it's done."
nelvana2005 Member since:
2005-07-29

There is something like a "click here for codecs button":
Packman is your friend.
http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
This procedure is legal in Germany, I hope that it is legal in other countries, too.

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RE[4]: When it's done.
by nelvana2005 on Fri 21st Sep 2007 14:43 in reply to "RE[3]: When it's done."
nelvana2005 Member since:
2005-07-29

I have just installed the OpenSuse 10.3-RC1 and found in Yast a package called "opensuse-codecs-installer":
"opensuse-codecs-installer - Cross platform codec installation for openSUSE
A cross platform component for multimedia frameworks to use to initiate package installation for missing codecs, specific to openSUSE. Supported by GStreamer and Xine."
So try it out.
Yast refers to the following URL:
http://software.opensuse.org/codecs
It is so damned simple:
"To go through a simple wizard guiding you through the installation process of some additional multimedia codecs where necessary, simply click on one of the links below: (...)"
:-)

Edit: Correction of a typo.

Edited 2007-09-21 14:45

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RE[3]: When it's done.
by apokryphos on Thu 20th Sep 2007 22:59 in reply to "RE[2]: When it's done."
apokryphos Member since:
2007-05-05

http://opensuse-community.org does have all the stuff, but MP3 support for banshee and amarok will be available straight away for the final release (via a "No mp3 support detected. Would you like to install it now?"

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