Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2007 17:09 UTC
Apple Columnist Bill Thompson at the BBC asks whether the time has come for Apple to be put under the EU microscope in the same way as Microsoft has. "If Apple was serious about building a music industry around downloads and digital devices then it would open up its devices and interfaces to allow greater innovation and greater competition."
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RE: Missing The Point...
by Timmmm on Thu 20th Sep 2007 19:42 UTC in reply to "Missing The Point..."
Timmmm
Member since:
2006-07-25

Except that they have blocked third party applications (e.g. Rhythmbox or Amarok) from even uploading songs onto the iPod. As far as I understand anyway. I don't think this has anything to do with DRM.

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RE[2]: Missing The Point...
by LobalSurgery on Thu 20th Sep 2007 20:09 in reply to "RE: Missing The Point..."
LobalSurgery Member since:
2006-09-07

The interoperability of downloaded music files and MP3 players has everything to do with DRM. If every legal download service offered songs in MP3 format, without DRM, wouldn't they play on every single player? Here, the blame lies firmly with the labels.

Apple is already selling a limited amount of songs without DRM (from only one label willing to try it so far). They cost more, track by track, but are the same price if you buy an entire album. It's a big step in the right direction, but if other labels don't follow then it'll have been nothing more than a cool experiment.

However, tying an iPod exclusively to iTunes is a valid complaint. They make much more money on the iPod you've already bought than the songs you might buy on the iTunes store: ~3.5 billion songs spread over 100 million iPods is only 35 songs per iPod (and of the $1 they get for each song, maybe $0.10 is profit). This shouldn't be as a big a deal to Apple as it appears to be.

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RE[2]: Missing The Point...
by tyrione on Thu 20th Sep 2007 21:13 in reply to "RE: Missing The Point..."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Can you use a Zune to access iTunes?

Can use use an iPod to access WMA 10 media files from Microsoft?

Edited 2007-09-20 21:14

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RE[3]: Missing The Point...
by JrezIN on Fri 21st Sep 2007 01:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Missing The Point..."
JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

"Can use use an iPod to access WMA 10 media files from Microsoft?"

The very interesting thing about that question is:
If they wanted, Apple could just license WMx DRM into iPod (and by just supporting MTP, it could be used with WMP too like most of Digital Audio Players), but right now MS, and also any other manufacturer, could not support Apple's DRM.

Of course MS' DRM is bad as Apple's, but the point is really something to think about...
...reminds me the new Discovery's show: Most Evil.

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RE[3]: Missing The Point...
by dagw on Fri 21st Sep 2007 09:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Missing The Point..."
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Can use use an iPod to access WMA 10 media files from Microsoft?

The interesting question is why can't you access WMA 10 files with your iPod. Is it because Microsoft refuses to license the technology or is it because Apple refuses to pay MS for access. Without evidence I strongly suspect it's the former and thus making the whole situation very different.

If Jobs called MS tomorrow and said "I want WMA 10 working on the iPod" I'm sure MS would be accomodating. Apple on the other hand are refusing to let others play their itms files.

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