Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Sep 2007 13:43 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Just like Eugenia yesterday, I also upgraded my laptop's Ubuntu Feisty installation to Gutsy a few days ago. The upgrade process went completely awry, though, so I was forced to do a fresh install. Not a bad thing, as it gave me the opportunity to take a look at Ubuntu's soon-to-be-released Gutsy Gibbon with GNOME 2.20
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segedunum
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2005-07-06

I absolutely hate Amarok, it's the seed of the devil for me, UI wise. It has vertically labeled text tabs for crying out loud! Any application who has those ought to be removed from the internet by law.

Oh, woe is you! Vertical tabs are not particularly great and shouldn't be used per se, but they're not particularly unusable either. You have icons there as well, so you're not completely relying on text. I don't read the text in the tabs at all, but I found out what they did pretty quickly. Personally, I think there are bigger problems out there, such as Kontact's insistence on using nothing but horizontal arrow key keyboard navigation in a vertical listbox, or Gnome's ridiculous insistence on drinking the instant-apply anti-freeze and giving me no way of reversing what I've done in a dialogue other than me remembering where things were. Duhhhh, that's why I use computers.

They need to organise what they present better, but it's not the end of the world as some people desperately want to make out that it is - for reasons that are best known to them ;-).

Seriously. It's great you like Amarok, but please don't make sweeping generalisations about it being the best there is - because it isn't.

That's great for you, but the facts are that people can sort their music and their playlists well in Amarok, they're able to get lyrics and use other services, they're able to get artist information, see tracks by the same artist in their collection, do album art.......

People can do all that, and it all actually works more often than not without a .Net traceback in sight! What do I want then? Have something without vertical text in tabs, or have something that works most of the time? Hmmmmm, it's a tricky one........

Give us a laugh and tell us what media player you think is the best.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

They need to organise what they present better, but it's not the end of the world as some people desperately want to make out that it is - for reasons that are best known to them ;-).


The problems arise from WHAT they are presenting. They want to present so much information, that the UI simply cannot cope with it - forcing them to do weird things like vertical tabs and tabs inside tabs with scrollarrows on them.

That's great for you, but the facts are that people can sort their music and their playlists [...] something that works most of the time? Hmmmmm, it's a tricky one........


Still, there are also enough people who simply hate over-functional-audio-players like Amarok/iTunes/WMP. I'm one of them.

Give us a laugh and tell us what media [you mean audio player, right?] player you think is the best.


My HiFi CD player.

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ashigabou Member since:
2005-11-11

Thom, have you taken a look at Muine ? UI-wise, this is the best player for me

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

...forcing them to do weird things like vertical tabs and tabs inside tabs with scrollarrows on them.

Hmmmm. Never seen that, but I think I might know what you're talking about there. It's not really ideal and they'll have to sort it because they're trying to create too many containers for various things, but I have much bigger annoyances with various UI related things.

Still, there are also enough people who simply hate over-functional-audio-players like Amarok/iTunes/WMP. I'm one of them.

You either get a very simple player that plays one file at a time, or you get into the realms of playlists, and once you get into playlists........you're into playlists.

"Give us a laugh and tell us what media [you mean audio player, right?] player you think is the best."

My HiFi CD player.


Then use that while you're using your computer then. It'll mean fiddling about finding CDs, you won't necessarily be able to mix tracks off different CDs unless you have a multi-changer and it'll take you a while to get that set up each time, but I'm sure you'll manage.

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