Linked by Smith Johnson on Thu 27th Sep 2007 15:22 UTC
Windows According to at least one blogger, Microsoft should abandon Vista before it's too late. It would appear he's not alone in this opinion, as Microsoft has begun allowing users to downgrade back to XP. Amongst the reasons? Poor sales figures and shoddy Vista "Extras".
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 27th Sep 2007 15:46 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

All I can say is that during this past year, Vista has really improved across the board on my laptop. File copy operations do no longer stall the system, it boots faster, it shuts down faster, those sorts of things. I'm sure SP1 will address even more of these general concerns. SP2 will follow later, which will not only bring fixes, but also some new features. By that time, Microsoft will be releasing tidbits of info on Vienna, and the blog people will be all over Microsoft, saying "Vista is good enough", "the new features in Vienna aren't worth it", and "Vienna is just Vista with a new coat".

In other words, just like XP. People are so predictable.

Edited 2007-09-27 15:49 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by kensai on Thu 27th Sep 2007 17:04 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
kensai Member since:
2005-12-27

The sorry state of a person that cannot see reality. Is true people will whine over the next MS release, because at lest we hope Vista will get better (hardly tough in my opinion) ans say why a new so revolutionary system. I am/was running Vista (I'm doing backups and moving everything to Linux) but we have to face reality Vista File copy operation is still slow most of the problems it has cannot be listed here cause are too much, yeah they fixed boot and shutdown speed but what a deal if my PC is turned on 90% of the day. I used Windows XP since it was RTM and I remember it wasn't perfect but it was solid, not rock solid tough (SP2 has made it ROCK SOLID). Vista cannot be called solid still as of today, just a bit improved since RTM. We should wake up and see the truth, we will not go anywhere if we just keep saying yeah, maybe SP1 and SP2 will fix things. as the Spanish saying goes: If you pay the musician before he plays, the play will be bad. MS is just overconfident on how no matter what they do wrong we will pay for their product cause we've made them believe we need them.

Just my Opinion.
-Thanks for Reading

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

It really is a matter of personal experience. Personally, I was using Linux during the ME/XP years, because I always found windows to be an archaic piece of crap. After giving the OEM Home Premium version that came with my laptop a try, Vista is what got me back on to windows.

I used Windows XP since it was RTM and I remember it wasn't perfect but it was solid, not rock solid tough (SP2 has made it ROCK SOLID). Vista cannot be called solid still as of today, just a bit improved since RTM. We should wake up and see the truth, we will not go anywhere if we just keep saying yeah, maybe SP1 and SP2 will fix things


RTM XP had very similar things going on. Not quite to the same level, but similar. Games didn't run well, people on different hardware configurations got vastly different experiences. I tried it out pre-launch (downloaded a leaked copy) and had no problems. A friend of mine bought it at launch, and found the perfomance and stability unacceptable, he didnt upgrade until sp1.

If it took XP until SP2 to become "rock solid", and XP was an incremental upgrade over 2k, then why is Vista to be dismissed pre-sp1 for not being perfect for everyone?

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by SilentStorm on Thu 27th Sep 2007 19:20 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
SilentStorm Member since:
2006-09-22

I just want to ask a question:

Are some of these near and future improvements are not meant to be features of the Vista instead of errm... "fabulous improvements made across the board" on Vista because the infinite benevolence of MS?

Just my $0.02 btw...

Edit: Every programmer makes typos and forgets statements c'mon! ;)

Edited 2007-09-27 19:21

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Sabz on Fri 28th Sep 2007 07:38 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Sabz Member since:
2005-07-07

SP2 will follow later


never Assume that there's gonna be another SP after this one,, lets see what Service pack 1 brings first

Edited 2007-09-28 07:39

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