Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Sep 2007 15:10 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team has released the beta for Ubuntu 7.10, Gutsy Gibbon. Highlights include GNOME 2.20, fancy desktop effects through Compiz Fusion, and more. Kubuntu 7.10 beta has also been released, featuring Dolphin as the default file manager, a restricted drivers manager, and updates and polish across the board.
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And it keeps getting better
by jcinacio on Thu 27th Sep 2007 15:57 UTC
jcinacio
Member since:
2006-03-12

I installed tribe5 on my laptop about a week ago, and (to no surprise) it just keeps getting better.

Things mostly "just work", but my major pain is with graphics drivers and acpi:

- ATI restricted driver (fglrx): no compiz, suspend/hibernate hardlock.
- ATI opensource driver (radeon): no compiz, no 3d, screen garbage at times, no hibernate.

IMHO developers should probably give higher importance to these kinds of bugs because (specially on notebooks) suspend is a MUST!

Other than that, i'm actually extremely happy with gutsy.

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snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

Things mostly "just work"


On legacy hardware, there are a lot of issues that didn't crop up with Feisty. The PPC iMac I have Feisty chugging along on had the following issues with Tribe 5:

- core calculation libraries like liboil compiled using only AltiVec (which is unavailable to G3s)
- OpenOffice crashing on opening earlier documents and when creating tables of contents (platform independent)
- IDE drivers not being probed by the kernel resulting in drives not being recognized (an issue also noticed by PC users)

Something seems to have changed in the development process and the paradigm seems to be support for the newest NewWorld Macs but ignoring older NewWorld Macs which are completely capable of running the OS.

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merkoth Member since:
2006-09-22

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Ubuntu had dropped official PPC Mac support.

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RE: And it keeps getting better
by aank45 on Thu 27th Sep 2007 18:42 in reply to "And it keeps getting better"
aank45 Member since:
2005-08-04

- ATI restricted driver (fglrx): no compiz, suspend/hibernate hardlock.
- ATI opensource driver (radeon): no compiz, no 3d, screen garbage at times, no hibernate.


What card do you have? Radeon 7000 - X850 should have compiz, 3d out of the box with the open source drivers. Eg. I have X800 and compiz works fluently and without problems. I also have a laptop with Radeon Mobility with working hibernate and suspend.

Regarding fglrx, Ubuntu developers can't fix faults of a closed source driver.

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jcinacio Member since:
2006-03-12

What card do you have? Radeon 7000 - X850 should have compiz, 3d out of the box with the open source drivers. Eg. I have X800 and compiz works fluently and without problems. I also have a laptop with Radeon Mobility with working hibernate and suspend.


The notebook is an aspire 5050 with ATI Radeon Xpress 1100, i guess it's something similar to the X300 for graphics.
Sorry, no compiz at all here (and i did try a lot of different Xorg settings)... don't believe me?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+radeon+compiz+problems

Regarding fglrx, Ubuntu developers can't fix faults of a closed source driver.


Absolutely! i just wish i didn't have to deal with the issues it has. i had no idea fglrx would work so badly on my laptop

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RE: And it keeps getting better
by DFreeze on Fri 28th Sep 2007 06:22 in reply to "And it keeps getting better"
DFreeze Member since:
2006-01-17

I have a Xpress 200M myself, and in the early Gutsy, the only way I could get Compiz to work was to make a new session that loads XGL. But just recently one of the updates made Gutsy automatically load XGL on startup, so Compiz was enabled without my intervention.

I don't know why that doesn't happen with your system. If your graphics card is supported with fglrx, it should automagically start an XGL session.

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