Linked by Smith Johnson on Thu 27th Sep 2007 15:22 UTC
Windows According to at least one blogger, Microsoft should abandon Vista before it's too late. It would appear he's not alone in this opinion, as Microsoft has begun allowing users to downgrade back to XP. Amongst the reasons? Poor sales figures and shoddy Vista "Extras".
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RE[3]: Ditch Vista?
by PlatformAgnostic on Thu 27th Sep 2007 19:50 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ditch Vista?"
PlatformAgnostic
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2006-01-02

It's not the cost difficulty of purchasing 10N systems that prevents MS from doing that. The main issue is that it is hard to get enough people to make use of those machines. It's the same reason why Mac Office took so long to get into release shape... there just aren't enough people and it's hard to find more qualified candidates.

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RE[4]: Ditch Vista?
by SReilly on Thu 27th Sep 2007 20:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Ditch Vista?"
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2006-12-28

I have to say I'm inclined to disagree with you on that one. If you stop to consider the amount of willing, educated workers in easter Europe and the Indian subcontinent, two areas MS has already a large established presence, you will find that that argument does not hold up.

It seems to me what is actually happening is that MS do not want to spend anymore then is absolutely necessary to get their product to market. Arguably, this is one of the main reasons MS is the richest corporation on the planet as it's not the first time we see them pull a stunt like this.

This sort of behavior is fine when there is no where else for a consumer to go, but with the rise of Linux on the desktop, coupled with the new upsurge in interest for the Mac, MS could be digging they're own grave. For me, the problem is simple. The more you treat your customers like guinea pigs (and the more you treat them like criminals, but that's OT) the less likely they are to come back.

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RE[5]: Ditch Vista?
by tweakedenigma on Thu 27th Sep 2007 20:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Ditch Vista?"
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2006-12-27

I was just gonna post almost the same comment. MS's real problem now is that the other options are usable. I mean Mac and Linux in 2002 didn't hold water. Linux was still far from user friendly and Mac was falling apart. But now both of them are in Fighting shape and MS doesn't have time to waste working out the kinks as people Can and Will move to others OS. Also as Transgaming gets more work done the last advantage of Windows is being taken away from them.

Vista, after sometime will probably be better then XP this is true but will it be able to compete with OSX and Linux distros like Ubuntu and Fedora as time goes on?

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RE[5]: Ditch Vista?
by PlatformAgnostic on Thu 27th Sep 2007 21:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Ditch Vista?"
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2006-01-02

There are lots of Europeans and Chinese people and Indians at Microsoft, I'm sure. But you'd be surprised at how hard it is to get even qualified workers into the US. Many of my friends just graduated from a very good US university and were able to land extremely lucrative jobs in Wall Street, but had to forgo those offers because of the government's refusal to give them even an H1B visa. Take a look at the news of Microsoft's new office in Vancouver. That's about 2 hours from Seattle by car, so the only reason it exists is to deal with the visa problem.

And even though Eastern Europe and India are huge talent pools, the cream of those crops is still not huge. I'm the son of an Indian immigrant, but I'll be the first to tell you that the majority of Indian IT people I've run into are not that impressive, just like with IT people from anywhere else. It takes a lot of effort to get the right people and reject the wrong ones... especially when from overseas because mistakes there are especially costly.

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RE[4]: Ditch Vista?
by PlatformAgnostic on Fri 28th Sep 2007 17:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Ditch Vista?"
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2006-01-02

I'm puzzled by the moderation of this post. Why would two people wish to mod it down? It doesn't seem to have anything particularly controversial in it. It looks like someone went through all my posts from the last few days and dinged each of them. It seems like moderation (at least negative) should need to be accompanied by some sort of comment.

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RE[5]: Ditch Vista?
by Soulbender on Fri 28th Sep 2007 18:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Ditch Vista?"
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2005-08-18

It looks like someone went through all my posts from the last few days and dinged each of them.


Welcome to the club.

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