Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 29th Sep 2007 21:26 UTC, submitted by Chris Lattner
General Development The LLVM Project recently released a new version of their compiler, optimizer and code generators. LLVM includes a drop-in GCC-compatible C/C++ and ObjC compiler, mature optimization technology (including cross file/whole program optimization), and a highly optimizing code generator. For people who enjoy hacking on compilers and runtimes, LLVM provides libraries for implementing custom optimizers and code generators including JIT compiler support. This release is the first to provide beta GCC 4.2 compatibility as well as the new "clang" C/ObjC front-end, which provides capabilities to build source-to-source translators and many other tools.
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RE[2]: CLANG GNU's GCC Replacement
by kaiwai on Sun 30th Sep 2007 13:49 UTC in reply to "RE: CLANG GNU's GCC Replacement"
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oh I forgot its much better to have another smack down over the benefits of copyleft vs permissive licenses.

Mate, its not that.

Talk to Sun, Apple and many other vendors who have tried to get patches merged which fix bone head stupid bugs - GCC maintainers refuse to merge it. There isn't a thing they can do but either absorb the extra costs of manually patching and compiling or simply stop providing GCC for their platforms - then we all suffer because of it.

GCC maintainers don't want to accept there could be some issues that need to be addresed; gcc to them is like a sacred cow; perish the thought that there are bugs and patches might get submitted by those out side the "Illuminati" and actually help develop GCC.

I just hope that if GCC developers keep messing around companies, the likes of Sun turn around and throw their weight behind LLVM.

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theine Member since:

Talk to Sun, Apple and many other vendors who have tried to get patches merged which fix bone head stupid bugs - GCC maintainers refuse to merge it.

Can you provide an example of this happening?

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kaiwai Member since:

Can you provide an example of this happening?

Look through Sun and Apple mailing lists.

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phoenix Member since:

Read through the comments on the story regarding integrating PCC into OpenBSD. There are a handful of very long posts on there that go into lots of detail on patches that people have made that have been ignored. Patches that fix issues and long-standing bugs in GCC, patches that fix regressions. And patches that have been summarily ignored.

I'd post the link to the story, but for some reason, we can't access from work (most likely the provincial network folks are blocking it).

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sbergman27 Member since:

It is my opinion that there should be at least two major FOSS players (with a strong commitment to standards, interoperability, and compatibility) in any given area. GCC needs some competition. Sure, multiple projects results in a division of resources, and some people don't like that. But look how dividing the resources between XFree86 and Xorg worked out for us.

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smitty Member since:

I agree, GCC really needs some competition. At the worst, a few resources are wasted but I think history has shown that it almost always leads to better products.

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