Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Sep 2005 13:38 UTC, submitted by Erik Harrison
Xfce "Every major release of the 4.x series of Xfce has been pretty major. 4.0 was the result of over a years work, a major rewrite of the entire desktop. 4.2 saw the introduction of major features and enhancements that were incomplete for 4.0, and new developers as Xfce4 gained popularity. 4.4 is going to be a major upgrade to Xfce, with new components, major upgrades to old ones, and more tools for developers. So, without further ado, let's take a look at what's coming."
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XFCE looking like GNOME.
by on Mon 5th Sep 2005 14:29 UTC

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"In addition, Xfwm has lost the ability to manage desktop wide shortcuts in order to move this feature to a more powerful and generalized shortcut tool."

What tool do they mean? I have alt+f1 configured to launch xmag, alt+PrtSc to create a screenshot of a window, and PrtSc for a fullscreen screenshot. They'd better not take the ability to configure such shortcuts away from me, or I will refuse to upgrade.

Dammit, when I read that article, I can't help but think it's taking the GNOME route. Stuff like taking things apart gives me a nasty feeling.

What made XFCE cool, was that it's such applications. There's the panel, the window manager, the mcs manager, the desktop. Now, I have all that, PLUS each panel plugin being a new process, a separate shortcut manager, and god knows what else.

Might as well run GNOME, then ;)

I'm dead serious though. Anyone else seeing how much XFCE is starting to look like GNOME?

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RE: XFCE looking like GNOME.
by on Mon 5th Sep 2005 16:49 in reply to "XFCE looking like GNOME."
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"What tool do they mean?"

What we mean is that we're taking the shortcut editor out of the WM. In short, we're making the WM _smaller_ while not getting rid of that functionality _at all_

"Now, I have all that, PLUS each panel plugin being a new process, a separate shortcut manager"

Panel plugins don't have to be external processes. It's a one line change to the source and a one line change to a .desktop file to make them internal

Plugins crashed the panel all the time. Only the more complex plugins (like things other than the launcher, or things that do heavy IO) will be external. So, if you have 30 launchers, you won't have 30 pointless processes.

However, if you have the weather plugin, it won't hang the panel if your network is down

Lots of people don't need the shortcut functionality. Moving it out allows them to minimize their desktop overhead (optionally) and makes the WM more stable.

How is this more Gnome like?

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RE: XFCE looking like GNOME.
by Wemgadge on Tue 6th Sep 2005 00:23 in reply to "XFCE looking like GNOME."
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2005-07-02

XFCE is in a nice spot. It can be either a basic windowmanager, or a full desktop environment. With just a basic install you have a decent WM. Load it up with all features and pop in a bunch of the applets and you have a full DE that is quickly becoming the "number three" DE.

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RE: XFCE looking like GNOME.
by on Tue 6th Sep 2005 03:01 in reply to "XFCE looking like GNOME."
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No, I don't see that XFCE is becoming like GNOME. All the changes mentioned seem to be inline with their philosophy, which I love.

The shortcut issue seems to be misinterpreted. I don't think the functionality is changing. It will just be moved.

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