Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 5th Oct 2007 20:49 UTC, submitted by Flatland_Spider
PC-BSD Jan Stedehouder has used PC-BSD for thirty days to see what living with it is like. On day thirty, he concludes: "Does PC-BSD have the potential to be a serious contender for the open source desktop? I answered that question with a yes, because the potential is there. The solid FreeBSD roots, the very strong and very accessible information, the friendly and mature community and the PBI system provide the foundations for that potential. I don't think it is ready now and I couldn't recommend it yet to someone in the early stages of moving away from Windows to an open source desktop. But I do think that the PC-BSD team has the right target audience in mind and is building an system and a support system that addresses it's needs."
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RE: Package Management
by Oliver on Sat 6th Oct 2007 09:19 UTC in reply to "Package Management"
Oliver
Member since:
2006-07-15

pkg_add resolves dependencies, if there are dependencies to install. So it's okay to do so after the release, but later it will fail, if you don't know better sources (and yes they are available).

>It's what really separates the BSDs from most Linux flavors.

Yes *BSD are source based operating systems like Gentoo.

>This is what is really holding BSDs back from becoming mainstream

And this is good most of the time, like in Gentoo too. Almost 30 years of BSD and guess what, it's alive and kickin ;)

>well, mainstream like Linux

Of course there is just no mainstream 'like Linux', there is maybe just mainstream 'like distro xyz'.

Flavours like DesktopBSD or PC-BSD will fill the gap for the desktop. And most users migrating from Linux are just amazed about the quality of the OS.t

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RE[2]: Package Management
by dylansmrjones on Sat 6th Oct 2007 14:36 in reply to "RE: Package Management"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I'm looking forward to the series on DesktopBSD. It's much more to my liking than PC-BSD.

DesktopBSD isn't a FreeBSD distribution as such. It's actually "just" a pre-configured FreeBSD installation, rather than a distribution built on FreeBSD as PC-BSD is. Installing applications on DesktopBSD is done through ports, which is much more to my liking.

Personally I use Gentoo Linux (apart from Windows, Syllable, SkyOS and DesktopBSD) but IMHO Portage is a bloated overengineered version of ports. Or put this way: ports are portage done right ;)

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RE[3]: Package Management
by antik on Sat 6th Oct 2007 16:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Package Management"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

DesktopBSD isn't a FreeBSD distribution as such. It's actually "just" a pre-configured FreeBSD installation, rather than a distribution built on FreeBSD as PC-BSD is. Installing applications on DesktopBSD is done through ports, which is much more to my liking.

Again I hear FUD from die hard FreeBSD fan who never tried PC-BSD- there is no difference in DesktopBSD and PC-BSD at all- PBI is add-on package manager- that's all. Everything in PC-BSD is built from ports (without any modification BTW) and just added couple of separate tools for system configuration like "user manager" and "Firewall GUI" which is not ready for production because there is so much options in PF (OpenBSD Packet Filter). It take a time to complete and polish operating system- Microsoft developed Windows for 10 years until it become barely usable.

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RE[3]: Package Management
by Oliver on Sat 6th Oct 2007 18:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Package Management"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

I'm in the DesktopBSD team, but I really don't see any difference apart from some tools or the design of KDE itself. So there is no real competition like in many Linux distros. I meet some of the PCBSD on a regular base in IRC for example.

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