Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 10th Oct 2007 22:45 UTC
Windows "The principal reason given for the tremendous under-the-hood changes to Windows unveiled early this year in Vista was the need to overhaul the security model. Indeed, Vista has proven to be a generally more secure operating system, though some vulnerabilities that apply to ordinary software impact Vista users just as much as any other. But now, software analysts testing the latest build 3205 of the beta for Windows XP Service Pack 3 are discovering a wealth of genuinely new features - not just patches and security updates (although there are literally over a thousand of those), but services that could substantially improve system security without overhauling the kernel like in Vista."
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RE: high speed gaming needed
by merkoth on Thu 11th Oct 2007 03:17 UTC in reply to "high speed gaming needed"
merkoth
Member since:
2006-09-22

WinXP + SP3 (enhanced security) + DX10 = Mostly Vista without Vista's current issues.
WinXP + SP3 (enhanced security) + DX10 = Customer satisfaction.
WinXP + SP3 (enhanced security) + DX10 = No money for MS.

No money for MS = Not a single chance of this happening.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but both XP and Vista are products and MS, as a bussiness, wants to make as much money as possible from its products. Unfortunately for you (the user), MS can't make as much money with XP as it can do with Vista.

Again: Not gonna happen, sorry.

PS: For the time being, XP is still useful for gaming. With some luck, Vista's current gaming issues will be gone before MS phases out XP.

Edited 2007-10-11 03:18 UTC

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RE[2]: high speed gaming needed
by luzr on Thu 11th Oct 2007 03:26 in reply to "RE: high speed gaming needed"
luzr Member since:
2005-11-20

No money for MS = Not a single chance of this happening.

Windows Vista - where are the money for MS?

They just have replaced one OEM system with another.

Actually, they might be selling more XP retail boxes now (to "downgrade" Vista) than Vista retail boxes.

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RE[2]: high speed gaming needed
by preem on Thu 11th Oct 2007 08:25 in reply to "RE: high speed gaming needed"
preem Member since:
2007-10-11

Well how my money going to Redmond if I refuse to buy a 2000€ PC just so my comp can handle Vista+game

Not Gonna Happen.

I hope there are others like me, because its time we(i mean You) stop buying MS products just for the sake of being Ms Fan.

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merkoth Member since:
2006-09-22

Well how my money going to Redmond if I refuse to buy a 2000� PC just so my comp can handle Vista+game

Not Gonna Happen.

I hope there are others like me, because its time we(i mean You) stop buying MS products just for the sake of being Ms Fan.


You mean me? A MS fan? I should mod you up for that one ;)

And for those telling me that "MS is probably doing more more with XP due to downgrades", that's just dumb.

You're thinking like Vista had zero cost to MS, like they were sitting on their asses and Vista just happened to spawn in a disk. MS spent a royal ass-ton of money developing and promoting Vista, and that money HAS to go back to their pockets, including enough benefits to keep the share holders relaxed.

And even if this doesn't have a significant economic impact on them, Vista "flopping" could do a lot of damage to a company that is no longer seen as "the good people who make apps for non-techies".

As far as I can see, they need Vista to be a good seller.

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RE[4]: high speed gaming needed
by preem on Thu 11th Oct 2007 12:48 in reply to "RE[2]: high speed gaming needed"
preem Member since:
2007-10-11

Yep, exactly, and this 'flopping' as you call it makes more damage to people than good, because MS is not a im-gonna-take-care-of-all-our-costumers kinda company for a long time now.

They have to sell it and they will and if they can't convince people its the best system ever, they will take other measures like not porting dx10 to xp and others which is more than enough big reason for me never to buy any MS product again.

And, no I didn't mean you directly as a MS fan, just general population, which is sadly still in the oh i dunno 90%'s ? at least in desktop pc's.

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RE[2]: high speed gaming needed
by wirespot on Thu 11th Oct 2007 12:43 in reply to "RE: high speed gaming needed"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

WinXP + SP3 (enhanced security) + DX10 = No money for MS.


If they have the gall to ask that kind of money for Vista, I don't see why they can't sell SP3 instead of giving it away.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

They could always call the new system for WinXP Reloaded (or something like that) and charge for the service pack. And remember to make MUI a part of the upgrade. Why that isn't generally available is a mystery to me. MUI is for Windows what gettext is for GNU. As it is now Windows is a joke in terms of localization.

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