Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th Oct 2007 21:43 UTC, submitted by Jeremy LaCroix
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The release candidate for Ubuntu 7.10 has been released. "The Ubuntu developers are hurrying to bring you the absolute latest and greatest software that the open source and free software communities have to offer. This is the Ubuntu 7.10 release candidate, which brings a host of excellent new features. We consider this release candidate to be complete, stable and suitable for testing by any user. The final stable version will be released in October 2007."
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RE[4]: Looks good
by da_Chicken on Fri 12th Oct 2007 00:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Looks good"
da_Chicken
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2006-01-01

The first major distro to do this (a single CD hybrid live / install edition) was Mepis.

Knoppix did this long, long before Mepis.

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RE[5]: Looks good
by DigitalAxis on Fri 12th Oct 2007 00:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks good"
DigitalAxis Member since:
2005-08-28

I don't think Knoppix was ever intended as an installable system. It could be done, but the resulting system was very difficult to upgrade. I remember trying to walk someone through an installation, without much luck.

Edited 2007-10-12 00:17

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RE[5]: Looks good
by AdamW on Fri 12th Oct 2007 01:09 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks good"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Knoppix is not and was never installable. It's purely a live CD. So it's really not the same.

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RE[6]: Looks good
by incubii on Fri 12th Oct 2007 01:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks good"
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2006-05-31

I dont know about the current version of Knoppix but at around version 3 of it myself and i beleive Fabian came out with installers for it.

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RE[6]: Looks good
by da_Chicken on Fri 12th Oct 2007 01:45 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks good"
da_Chicken Member since:
2006-01-01

Knoppix is not and was never installable.

Wrong. My first successful Debian installation (back in the Debian Woody days) was done via Knoppix. The installation was simple and quick -- it just created a new file system and then dumped the contents of the live-cd onto the hard drive (kind of like the current Ubuntu desktop installer does).

The problem was that Knoppix mixed packages from Debian Stable, Testing, and Unstable, plus many packages from unofficial repositories, and the first "apt-get dist-upgrade" immediately broke my installation. ;)

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RE[6]: Looks good
by Googol on Sat 13th Oct 2007 12:45 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks good"
Googol Member since:
2006-11-24

How can this be modded up where it is obviously false? Knoppix was installable off the live CD for the longest time. There was an option within the booted system from where you could start a HD install. It even had/has (?) a feature where you could set it up to act as a thin client server.

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RE[5]: Looks good
by superstoned on Fri 12th Oct 2007 12:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks good"
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2005-07-07

Knoppix was indeed installable, but that didn't lead to a very stable installation. Kanotix, a Knoppix deriviate focussed on installation, should imho qualify as the first properly installable livecd. There was of course a lot of cooparation between kanotix/knoppix, and I think the installation tools and stuff from kanotix got merged back in knoppix, so it is properly installable nowadays.

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RE[6]: Looks good
by da_Chicken on Fri 12th Oct 2007 14:05 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks good"
da_Chicken Member since:
2006-01-01

Knoppix was indeed installable, but that didn't lead to a very stable installation. Kanotix, a Knoppix deriviate focussed on installation, should imho qualify as the first properly installable livecd.

I checked the DistroWatch page for Kanotix and it seems that Kanotix was started sometime in the late 2004. But in the early 2003 there was already an installable live-cd called Morphix. It used only packages from Debian Sid and there were three versions: one with XFCE, one with GNOME, and one with KDE. Morphix had a nice-looking GUI installer and at that time I found Morphix an ideal way to install Debian Sid easily. Morphix, as the name suggests, was originally derived from Knoppix but it also sported some GUI system configuration tools that its developer had ported from Red Hat.

IIRC, there was also another Knoppix-derivative before Kanotix, called Gnoppix, that came with GNOME. But I'm not sure if Gnoppix was actually installable and I never used it, so I don't have any first-hand details about it. However, I have a vague recollection that Canonical might have hired the Gnoppix developer when Ubuntu was first started, which would make the current Ubuntu live-cd a descendant of Gnoppix (and Knoppix).

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RE[5]: Looks good
by bogomipz on Fri 12th Oct 2007 13:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks good"
bogomipz Member since:
2005-07-11

Must...resist..to mention...that BeOS did this back in the mid 90's

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RE[6]: Looks good
by BluenoseJake on Fri 12th Oct 2007 14:57 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks good"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

You certainly didn't resist for long

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