Star Patent Infringement Lawsuit Filed Against Red Hat, Novell
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Oct 2007 14:16 UTC, submitted by walterbyrd
Law and Order Groklaw reports that a company called IP Innovation, LLC, has filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Novell and Red Hat. Groklaw goes into black helicopter mode, trying to find a tie between this IP Innovation thing and Microsoft - and it finds it too. A few ex-Microsoft employees now work at IP Innovation. Do with it as you please.
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Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Thom - don't you just think that it's highly suspicious that Microsoft does a patent deal with Novell, which in reality is not in the spirit of the GPL. A year or so later, several Microsoft employees move from Microsoft to this patent litigation firm. A few days later, Ballmer threatens that Redhat will be sued for patent infringements. A few days after this, said patent litigation company sues Redhat. Does that not sound suspicious to you?


Like I said a few times already in this thread, I never said that Groklaw cannot be right on this one. It's just that I like to adhere to I) Ockham's Razor, and II) our justice system. And when following those, there is zero evidence to accuse Microsoft of using that IP Innovation company as a puppet.

I'm sorry, but I don't like people who go all black helicopter. If you accuse people/companies of something, you better have the evidence to back it up. If you don't, it's nothing more than slander.

Again, that is not to say Groklaw isn't right. It's just that they better get some *real* proof.

Edited 2007-10-13 17:43 UTC

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archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

I) Ockham's Razor, and II) our justice system. And when following those, there is zero evidence to accuse Microsoft of using that IP Innovation company as a puppet.


I disagree with you here. Considering the facts (ex-MS employee going over to Acacia, Ballmer's repeated threats, and so on), Occam's Razor would suggest that the simplest explanation is that, in fact, MS and Acacia are in cahoots.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I disagree with you here. Considering the facts (ex-MS employee going over to Acacia, Ballmer's repeated threats, and so on), Occam's Razor would suggest that the simplest explanation is that, in fact, MS and Acacia are in cahoots.


No, the simplest explanation is CLEARLY that the CEO of the biggest software company of the world simply KNOWS ITS SHIT. In addition, Microsoft, being the biggest employer in the business, litters ex-employees all over the place. Lastly, it's kind of LOGICAL that those ex-employees get a new job in a field they worked in at Microsoft too - so an IP guy at Ms is most likely to work in.... the IP field after leaving MS.

THAT is the simple explanation.

Let's put it this way. What if IP Innovation also has a few ex-Sun or ex-IBM employees in its workforce. Does that mean those companies are in the conspiracy too?

Edited 2007-10-13 17:56 UTC

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somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

And the flaw of Occam's Razor is...?

Here is a nice example.

Most of the food that you eat comes out of you as shit. Simplest resolve is that shit is most common ingredient in any food.

If you don't take enough of arguments in equation, you might end up with non sense result.

In here the most important factor would be relation why and how MS employee left.

p.s. I'm pro Linux, and I too think MS is involved at least in some ways. I just disputed Occam's razor argument

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