Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Oct 2007 22:22 UTC, submitted by diegocg
KDE The KDE Projects is announcing the third beta of its future KDE 4.0 platform. "This Beta has mostly been focussing on finalizing the design of the libraries in preparation for the release of the KDE Development Platform. Yet, many user-visible changes have gotten in as well. While new features and usability improvements were added, bugs were found and fixed in KDE and the stability of Beta 3 has improved much compared to the previous Betas. With the third Beta, the KDE project has begun to finalize KDE 4.0."
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Generic Rant
by elsewhere on Thu 18th Oct 2007 14:44 UTC
elsewhere
Member since:
2005-07-13

This comment from a poster by the name of Johnny Akward on the dot (http://dot.kde.org/1192512637/1192546591/) pretty much says it all:

It looks great, but why isn't my favourite feature included (please vote for my bug report). It crashes somestimes as well. KDE 4 won't be as good as KDE 3 unless it can suspend and restore properly. I like Oxygen, but why is it all white with no contrast? The alt-f2 thingy is black. Why isn't it white? I did something and it didn't work - can someone tell me why? How do I fix it? The programmers need to work harder. The usability people need to usabil harder. I like the flashy graphics, my friends will want to use KDE. Why are you all working on the graphics though, we need more features. Why does Aaron look like Tom Green? He needs to stop looking like Tom Green and work harder on Plasma. And Lubos would be far more productive if he didn't mess around with silly character sets all the time.


People, get over it. Complain about stability when it's released, not when it's in development, because here's a hint: the devs know already. See something specific or broken, file a bug and they'll appreciate the feedback, don't moan on a public forum.

A year ago people postured and tubthumped that the devs set the bar too high and would never implement the major changes and that pie-in-the-sky frameworks would wind up vaporware. Now the complaints have been reduced to postulating whether the polishing will be finished by deadline, or that it looks too much like Vista (WTF?), or that people born post-70's wondering why the clock has a line through it.

I'd say that's progress, and impressive at that. As one of the chief execs at the company I work for, during a period of major acquisition/restructuring/global expansion, was fond of saying: "I know we're making progress because you're complaining about new problems now, and not the same ones from last quarter." Food for thought... ;)

RE: Generic Rant
by apoclypse on Thu 18th Oct 2007 15:05 in reply to "Generic Rant"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I guess people are more disappointed in the fact that so far the releases are beta in the traditional sense as opposed to the more common OSS sense. In other many projects have beta versions of their software but for the most part they are stable and work since most issues should have been resolved in the alphas, the betas are fro stabilizing not adding features, anything that was going to be added should have been added and prepared for stabilization. Right now KDE4 feels very alpha quality, but it might be due to the packages I've been using, I'm compiling from svn as we speak.

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RE[2]: Generic Rant
by superstoned on Thu 18th Oct 2007 15:30 in reply to "RE: Generic Rant"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

The reason it feels very alpha and unfinished is really mostly Plasma. Most other apps are pretty usable, though a few low-level bugs still have to be shaken out of the libraries (ssl support is one).

So as long as plasma (which is moving insanely fast right now, taking up a big part of the crazy amount of almost 400 commits a day) is usable, I think things will work out for the good.

Release early and often, that's important. We need comments, bugfixes, new contributors - so we need to release.

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RE: Generic Rant
by Soulbender on Fri 19th Oct 2007 03:54 in reply to "Generic Rant"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Why does Aaron look like Tom Green?


Now there's a curse I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

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