Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 21st Oct 2007 11:02 UTC, submitted by irbis
Linux "Should Security Enhanced Linux be designated as the sole security framework for Linux? While most security specialists would agree on the high quality of SELinux, proponents are arguing this framework is the only one that should be needed for the open-source operating system kernel. In fact, it would eliminate the need for the Linux Security Module, an open platform for outsider developers to build their own security frameworks for Linux. And this idea has raised the ire of Linux keeper Linus Torvalds."
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I agree with Linus
by Nycran on Sun 21st Oct 2007 12:07 UTC
Nycran
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2006-02-06

Linux is about freedom of choice, not just for the end user, but for the distro makers too. Developers should be free to explore new possibilities, and that is precisely what LSM provides.

RE: I agree with Linus
by butters on Sun 21st Oct 2007 15:22 in reply to "I agree with Linus"
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2005-07-08

Furthermore, Linux is not about enabling the biggest vendor to promote their technology to the exclusion of the rival technology promoted by the second and third biggest vendors. The only consensus for SELinux is the one that Red Hat is desperately trying to manufacture in the face of an increasingly popular alternative.

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RE[2]: I agree with Linus
by elsewhere on Mon 22nd Oct 2007 01:15 in reply to "RE: I agree with Linus"
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2005-07-13

Furthermore, Linux is not about enabling the biggest vendor to promote their technology to the exclusion of the rival technology promoted by the second and third biggest vendors. The only consensus for SELinux is the one that Red Hat is desperately trying to manufacture in the face of an increasingly popular alternative.


Agree this is clearly an attempt to de-capitate AppArmor now that the devs are looking for mainline inclusion.

Between this situation and the previous CFS/CK scheduler debate, I'm beginning to wonder about Red Hat's actual commitment to community vs. self-attainment. Either incident on their own I could dismiss as typical LKML bickering, but RH is showing a pattern now and while I'm not an RH user with either RHEL or Fedora, I have always respected the commitment and investment they've made in linux overall development. Now I'm wondering, because they're beginning to act with a bit of an entitlement mentality, so it certainly begs closer consideration.

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