Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 26th Oct 2007 05:34 UTC, submitted by WillM
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Experts say that migrations from Unix to Linux have slowed down because all the low-hanging fruit has now been picked. Linux growth in the U.S. x86 server market has, over the past six quarters, started to falter and reverse its positive course relative to Windows Server and the market as a whole." More here.
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Okay...
by evad on Fri 26th Oct 2007 06:07 UTC
evad
Member since:
2005-09-10

Maybe what IDC are saying *might* be true. However IDC are just looking at the operating systems shipped on x86 servers. This doesn't mean as much as you'd think since it's nice and easy to remove Windows and install Linux, or a BSD, or Solaris or something. It is also only x86 servers. It also ignores, as the article suggests, virtualization.

Further I don't really believe IDC could possibly document every sale of every x86 server in the world. I'd would further like to ask IDC how many servers are sold without any operating system at all since many choose to run a Unix that you simply can't "buy".

Red Hat and Sun's results seem to suggest the opposite of what IDC is saying. More and more people are buying Red Hat Enterprise subscriptions and Sun seem to say the same thing about their Solaris services. Is this not a better indicator of success of the Linux and Unix "market"? (As if we cared about competing with Windows Server anyway?)

Edited 2007-10-26 06:09

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RE: Okay...
by Karitku on Fri 26th Oct 2007 10:05 in reply to "Okay..."
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

"This doesn't mean as much as you'd think since it's nice and easy to remove Windows and install Linux, or a BSD, or Solaris or something."
Firstly very few business does this, if any. Don't mistake figures to consumer markets, this is purely business customers. And most business customers buy package deals, they have option to buy Linux with server. Maybe reason is like article says that business consumers aren't very pleased (or the lack knowledge) how to use Linux in other roles than just web server. Also your last claim might be true, but you fail to see that server markets are growing. Sameway Apple might increase there sale by 3% but lose total market since total growth is 5%.

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RE[2]: Okay...
by gilboa on Fri 26th Oct 2007 11:20 in reply to "RE: Okay..."
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

... I can't talk about other people, but all the servers we buy come OS-less.
We add RHEL/CentOS and, grrr, Windows later. (We have site license for those).

... and I'm not talking about a couple of servers - I'm talking about hundreds.

Granted, my case can be radically different then others, but in general I don't trust surveys that are built around shady foundations.

- Gilboa

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RE: Okay...
by Rugmonster on Mon 29th Oct 2007 16:56 in reply to "Okay..."
Rugmonster Member since:
2005-11-18

I know we just bought a new HP blade solution and got VMWare ESX for the 8 blades. Hmm... Linux (for all intensive purposes) x8.

I can't help but think they're missing a large chunk of the market by not taking into account the systems shipping without an OS at all. Most large organizations buy their Windows licenses and/or install their own OS separate from the buying the physical machines. This is especially true with virtualization being used more and more.

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