Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Oct 2007 12:08 UTC
Mac OS X Today, Apple is unleashing Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard onto the world. It's already available to people in Australia and New Zealand (you liking it, Kaiwai?), and Europe and the US will follow later today. There's an article on what's new for Ruby developers, while others want to figure out what Leopard means to the 'enterprise' (I love those silly business terms). Update by AS: My copy of Leopard was slated for a 10AM delivery, but didn't arrive. I called FedEx and a CSR told me that an internal memo was just released; Apple has apparently waved the shipping deadline for all packages today and requested delivery be rescheduled at the end of the business day. Update 2 by AS: Ok, we've received our copy. How about you other US'ers?
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RE: where's java 6?
by babernat on Fri 26th Oct 2007 14:25 UTC in reply to "where's java 6?"
babernat
Member since:
2007-02-21

Huge disappointment. I'm primarily a Java developer by trade and bought a Mac last year. I didn't think Apple's lag in Java releases would be that big of deal. Truth is, it's very annoying.

I don't really know what you can do about it though. One thing comes to mind and that's to release their jvm/jdk implementations under a license similar to Open JDK. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Of course other OS's don't come with Java installed and that's fine because when deploying my software I can always distribute the JRE as an optional download. With OS X that's not possible. So in my opinion it's worse because there is less choice for the developers which ultimately results in less choice for the consumers.

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RE[2]: where's java 6?
by jsight on Fri 26th Oct 2007 16:30 in reply to "RE: where's java 6?"
jsight Member since:
2005-07-06

Of course other OS's don't come with Java installed and that's fine because when deploying my software I can always distribute the JRE as an optional download.


The thing is that other oses do include java vms. If you walk into a retail store and run "java -version" from a prompt, most will give you java 5 (some java 6). MS doesn't ship it, but Sun has oem agreements with most vendors.

OpenSuSe includes sun's java 5 and ubuntu is steadily making it easier.

Of course, most of those are still stuck with 5 by default as well. Hopefully they will move to 6 as the default within 6 months or so.

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