Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 26th Oct 2007 05:34 UTC, submitted by WillM
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Experts say that migrations from Unix to Linux have slowed down because all the low-hanging fruit has now been picked. Linux growth in the U.S. x86 server market has, over the past six quarters, started to falter and reverse its positive course relative to Windows Server and the market as a whole." More here.
Thread beginning with comment 281055
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

Quite frankly, you haven't really used it. I can't speak about Zenworks-for-Linux

Since the original post was about building Zenworks on Linux, yes, that's what I was talking about.

which I hear exists, but Zenworks on for netware 5.x/6.x managing Windows clients is simply unbeatable

My advice? Stay on 6.5.

And about groupwise... maybe it's not perfect, but if your network is built around eDirectory it is the best thing going.

The problem is, most networks aren't built around eDirectory, they're built around Active Directory, since it is a prerequisite of managing Windows. Most are using Exchange.

Also, do not underestimate directory integrated services.

I don't, which is why most Linux server installations hit a brick wall. The vast majority aren't going to buy Novell's software on top. Either you get your hands dirty with OpenLDAP, which doesn't have a decent, default installation anywhere, or you get your hands just slightly less dirty with Red Hat Directory Server (Fedora Directory Server), which again, doesn't have a decent default installation anywhere. Additionally, very little is integrated with it until you go and do it yourself.

Reply Parent Score: 2

sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

I agree that it is a problem that openldap and other free directories are close to useless, given the amount of work it takes to make them do useful things.

It is not, however, necessary to use activedirectory to manage Windows. eDirectory works just fine--even better, in my opinion.

I think Novell could make a compelling case for itself if it could start with a Linux base, add open source services modified to be tied tightly in to eDir and sell them bundled together that way (without the option to buy them separately, preferably).

They wont, o course, because they're Novell and dropping balls is what they do best.

Reply Parent Score: 1

segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

It is not, however, necessary to use activedirectory to manage Windows. eDirectory works just fine--even better, in my opinion.

If you want to use things like group policy, Active Directory is a must. Given that prerequisite, all eDirectory end up being is a management tools to synchronise with AD.

This will only change until Samba 4 comes on stream, and that will be a while.

Reply Parent Score: 2

sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""

They wont, o course, because they're Novell and dropping balls is what they do best.

"""

There's a fair amount of truth to that.

Oh well... if worse comes to worst, they can always get a seasonal job at Times Square. ;-)

Reply Parent Score: 1