HP announced the release of OpenVMS 8.3-1H1. "HP is pleased to announce the release of OpenVMS version 8.3-1H1 for Integrity servers, the 30th anniversary [I got startled by the automatic video] edition of the OpenVMS operating system! OpenVMS version 8.3-1H1 includes all the capabilities of its predecessor, and introduces new features and hardware support."
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Member since:2006-03-13
You don't need to write DCL scripts to do stuff in VMS any more than you need to write shell scripts to use *nix. I ran VMS inside a VAX emulator and while the command line lacked some features (most notably any sort of auto-completion features) it was pretty good. BTW, if you couldn't get a simple file list, you obviously don't remember DOS... "dir" does just what you would expect.
Member since:2005-11-10
Well it all depends on your background. You can get a person who cut his or her teeth on VMS and drop them into an unix shell, and they will experience the same bewilderment. A la "what is this ls crap?" or "This file system structure makes no sense."
Familiarity should not be mistaken with user friendliness.
That being said. It was a running joke among VMS bigots about how user unfriendly unix was when compared to their precious DCL. More astroturfing than anything, IMHO. Both systems require a fairly steep learning curve. And with products like GNV, that create an unix-like environment, the VMS fellas seem to have relaxed a little bit their holier than thou attitude.
I have always found *nixen far more developer friendly. Up to recently |D|I|G|I|T|A|L| pretty much demanded your first born child in order to obtain a half assed C development environment. And to this day, developing/hacking on VMS can be in some ways an exercise in reviving the late 80s :-).
However, once you get a system fine tuned and doing what you need it to do, it just keeps on going. VMS is not a sexy system, it stays out of the way in the background. Which I guess it is a good thing...
PS. I can't believe no one has brought the whole meme of how Windows NT is the evil step child of VMS ;-)
Edited 2007-11-02 15:32
Member since:2005-07-13
"So in summary... Google has pulled the plug on support on a protocol they've helped popularize, after years of promising interoperability, for reasons that are dubious at best, and in a way that leaves people who don't jump to the new Hangouts app unable to talk to their contacts without any feedback that their IMs aren't getting through... And they've done that with no warning to anyone. I imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering where some of their buddies have gone, or why their messages aren't getting responses, because this isn't documented anywhere." Google really messed this up. Such a dick move.
The Tizen Greek Community has some screenshots of a very recent build of Tizen running on a Samsung GT-i8800. It looks wholly unremarkable.Joint statement to The Next Web from Microsoft and Google: "Microsoft and YouTube are working together to update the new YouTube for Windows Phone app to enable compliance with YouTube's API terms of service, including enabling ads, in the coming weeks. Microsoft will replace the existing YouTube app in Windows Phone Store with the previous version during this time." Good to know these children stopped acting like little pricks. Can we have full Google support in Windows 8 now, please?
Yahoo is acquiring Tumblr, the microblogging and social networking website, for $1.1 billion USD. Tumblr offers little revenue but lots of eyeballs if Yahoo can monetarize them. Now Yahoo is bidding for Hulu, the streaming video service. After years of ineffective responses while Google, Facebook, and others took large chunks of the online advertising market, Yahoo is fighting back. Can Yahoo reignite the momentum it had at the turn of the century? What do you think?
"Sources have described iOS 7 as 'black, white, and flat all over'. This refers to the dropping of heavy textures and the addition of several new black and white user interface elements." I couldn't be happier.
"Ilja van Sprundel, a security researcher with IOActive, has discovered a large number of issues in the way various X client libraries handle the responses they receive from servers, and has worked with X.Org's security team to analyze, confirm, and fix these issues."
"Google is facing a new antitrust probe by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission into whether the company is using its leadership in the online display-advertising market to illegally curb competition, people familiar with the matter said." Sucks to be Google today, apparently."In the midst of the major press blitz surrounding its annual I/O Conference, Google dropped some unfortunate news about its instant messaging plans. In several places around the web, the company is replacing the existing 'Talk' platform with a new one called 'Hangouts' that sharply diminishes support for the open messaging protocol known as XMPP (or sometimes informally Jabber), and also removes the option to disable the archiving of all chat communications. These changes represent a switch from open protocols to proprietary ones, and a clear step backward for many users." That's why I always say: only suckers trust companies."The wave of departures is a sign of internal struggle, but amidst all the bad news, there is a glimmer of hope. According to an anonymous HTC executive cited by WSJ, the crucial HTC One is selling 'pretty good so far'. The executive revealed that HTC sold about five million One units since launch, a performance that is deemed encouraging. However, sales have been limited by the persisting supply issues that still plague the production of the HTC One." Finally some good news for HTC. Five million units amidst supply constraints is very impressive.
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.
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2007-10-07
It is mostly an opinion, but when compared to VMS it's a lot friendlier, trust me.
Once when I connected to a VMS machine in the HP Testdrive program, I couldn't even execute a 'dir'-like command.
It somewhat requires you to script even to list a directory.
What an absurdity, a shell is made for ease of use and to access resource not for scripting. I'd rather use a separate program for scripting if I really wanted it.
And to think that I was able to use HP-UX and Tru64 almost without an itch, by only using my previous experience with Linux, *BSD, a bit of Solaris and yes even a bit of that evilness called 'SCO' OpenServer.
And even if you don't know the *nix basic commandline and you only know DOS one if you get a list of commands it's quite easy to figure out.
To use the VMS shell, maybe you need to learn a whole new scripting language and that's way unfriendly.