Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Nov 2007 16:12 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Fedora Core Fedora 8 Release Candidate 3 has been released. "Fedora 8 Release Candidate 3 has been released on the torrent site. Both DVD and Live images have been provided. Unless something goes terribly wrong, these will be the same bits (modulo gpg signed SHA1SUM files) that will go to the mirrors for the final Fedora 8 release." Update: There is an interview up about CodecBuddy's inclusion in Fedora 8 with the two developers behind this feature.
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by buff on Fri 2nd Nov 2007 20:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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Member since:
2005-11-12

torrents are an issue for me too. I have Comcast broadband and I have been downloading the DVD for over 12 hours. bittorent-curses says I have 5.5 hours left! The problem with torrents is if not enough users have seeds available the download speed is very slow. I try to do my part and let bittorent upload from my torrent for several days after a release. Comcast is throttling uploads and probably limiting download speed of torrents too. I think there was some legal action against them recently.

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by irbis on Fri 2nd Nov 2007 21:05 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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2005-07-08

Yes, Bittorrent is not often the fastest way to download.

Perhaps not a big surprise if some internet service providers may restrict Bittorrent traffic when many estimates state that Bittorrent and other peer-to-peer file sharing traffic may be responsible for about 40% of all Internet traffic.
http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-dominates-internet-traffic-07090...

Also according to Comcast the reason for occasionally delaying peer-to-peer file sharing traffic is "[i]to conserve bandwidth and allow customers to experience the Internet without delays."
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/comcast-were-delaying-not-...
http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=10300CL7I43E

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by butters on Fri 2nd Nov 2007 22:39 in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
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2005-07-08

Comcast sells its customers a certain bandwidth down and up for a flat rate. They're upset about Bittorrent because their customers are starting to use more of their allotted bandwidth more of the time. If their current bandwidth oversell ratio is too high in light of new usage models, then they need to reduce the amount of bandwidth they sell, increase rates to expand capacity, or switch to a metered bandwidth model that accounts for time-of-day variations in demand (like the electric companies).

They shouldn't care what kind of traffic flows over their network. The should only care about the quantity of traffic. Network operators can get as creative and innovative as they want in shaping and pricing bandwidth quantitatively. But they should never shape or price bandwidth qualitatively. Whichever applications, services, or protocols their users prefer to consume a given amount of bandwidth has no bearing on the economics of their business.

In fact, I find it odd that a business that sells bandwidth would be opposed to a technology that creates a large demand for their product. What a horrible situation to be in. Cry me a river.

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