Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Nov 2007 16:12 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Fedora Core Fedora 8 Release Candidate 3 has been released. "Fedora 8 Release Candidate 3 has been released on the torrent site. Both DVD and Live images have been provided. Unless something goes terribly wrong, these will be the same bits (modulo gpg signed SHA1SUM files) that will go to the mirrors for the final Fedora 8 release." Update: There is an interview up about CodecBuddy's inclusion in Fedora 8 with the two developers behind this feature.
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RE[2]: Yum
by sbergman27 on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 10:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Yum"
sbergman27
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2005-07-24

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I agree that back in F2-F3 Yum was dog slow. Never the less, it has steadily improved on each release.
As long as your have fastestmirror package installed, Yum/F8 can rival apt in speed.
There are still some issues to fix (the assoying checksum-match problem - that should be auto-handled instead of need a manual 'yum clean all'), but there are getting there.
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The three distros I use in my daily life and my business are CentOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I ran F8 for a bit, recently, for testing purposes. And while yum has gotten a lot better and has perfectly acceptable performance, it still can't match apt for speed. Apt handles dependencies faster, and downloads over my 12mbit connection faster. I think apt can pull bits from multiple servers at once.

That said, I have *not* had a chance to try out the new "presto" capabilities that have been enabled by default in F8. I'm anxious to see the benefits of delta patches.

Edited 2007-11-03 10:49

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RE[3]: Yum
by gilboa on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 10:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Yum"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

IMO, presto is not ready yet. (But I've yet to test it on newer versions of F8).
It was stable, but somehow, even on a dual quad-core Clovertown, yum seemed (IHMHO!) slower.
Hopefully it'll be ready by F9.

As for speed, a couple of months ago I would have agreed with you... however, my local Debian mirror is down and I'm forced to use remote servers, slowing down apt considerably. (netselect-apt didn't really help)
For now, with no local mirrors, apt is just as fast (or as slow) as yum.

- Gilboa

Edited 2007-11-03 10:58

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RE[4]: Yum
by sbergman27 on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 11:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Yum"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I still have some machines running FC1. (They are POS stations which are never exposed to anything outside of their own small, trusted network.) I occasionally have need to install some package on them. And *oh my god!*, remember when yum downloaded all those zillions of little header files that it needed one by one uncompressed? Yum has, indeed, come far.

On delta updates. Suse has, of course, been doing them for years. At least they used to, and I assume they still do. I distinctly remember being thoroughly disappointed by their performance. Of course, that was a *long* time ago and things may have changed.

At any rate, the potential of deltas is huge for a distro like Fedora. I just spot checked (by adding up all the sizes of the updates in the i386 F7 updates directory), and Fedora has released over 6 Gigabytes of updates to F7 in less than six months. Of course, most people do not have *everything* installed, but still.

I should note, for those unaware, that this is not because Fedora is buggy and needs all those patches to fix stuff. Fedora tracks upstream, and if the upstream releases a 1.02 version to replace 1.01, Fedora will push that out.

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RE[4]: Yum
by Rahul on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 12:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Yum"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

If you anyone is interested in Presto, there are working repositories available at

https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/presto/

Presto is a pretty neat feature IMO. Check it out.

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