Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Nov 2007 21:31 UTC, submitted by null_pointer_us
3D News, GL, DirectX "Today, with the coming introduction of the NVIDIA 780i chipset, NVIDIA is looking to make serious changes to what is possible with enthusiast systems by launching a new technology platform. The name of the new standard is ESA - Enthusiast System Architecture. Its goal is to provide information and control to enthusiasts not just for NVIDIA motherboards and video cards, but to provide that information and control for many other components in an ESA-enabled system. The actual protocol is OS independent. This is very important for the future of ESA, as it will eventually allow ESA to operate with any platform."
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null_pointer_us
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2005-08-19

I asked what was the kernel teams stances on adding another level of complexity that will require the component parts to be redesigned to communicate over USB which then will require motherboard manufacturers to redesign this as well.


As I explained to you earlier, ESA is a USB Human Interface Device specification, on the level of a generic USB keyboard/mouse driver. You can wonder about the kernel teams' viewpoints all you want, but their opinions are peripheral at best (pun intended). Writing a new module for a new USB device class that does little more than cooling system statical reporting-and-configuration in a user-space app hardly requires a kernel redesign. Did you think ESA was supposed to replace something as fundamental as ACPI?

Sounds overkill and cumbersome to build oversized cases to accommodate cooling systems for the sake of joe sandbox who wants to customize every little setting until they screw it up.


So basically you have no idea what ESA is or why it might be useful, yet you decide to form a strong opinion on the subject.

If nVidia wants this to take off I'd suggest they produce some motherboards, power supplies, cooling systems in the idea of cases they want and show how this would work.


nVidia does not produce power supplies or system cooling devices, but some companines who do produce those devices have signed onto the standard.

IMO such proof-of-concept systems are practically meaningless: Intel and many other system component manufacturers have been pushing new system prototypes for years without the technology ever making it to market (even piecemeal).

What nVidia is doing is better: producing an open USB device standard. Anyone who wants to make their peripherals compatible with ESA can do so, and they will work with any other vendors' devices that have been made ESA compatible. Win/win for the industry IMO. The only real shame would be if ESA does not attract enough attention to replace all the half-assed, proprietary junk we currently deal with.

I admit to being slightly mystified as to why you have chosen to impart conventional wisdom to multi-million dollar corporations via OSNews comments. Are you trying to imply that you are smarter than nVidia?

Then again, I believe the article stated that the new 780i chipsets will support ESA. Maybe these manufacturers do not need proof-of-concept systems if they are already building ESA support into the devices they will be selling in the near future?

Otherwise, it wreaks that nVidia is worried that Intel and AMD with their inroads into graphics scares the piss out of them.


You are claiming that nVidia is so worried about their motherboard chipset business competition that they...went ahead and created an open standard over an existing, nearly ubiquitous bus -- both of which Intel and AMD can freely support whenever Intel and AMD deem it in their own best interests?

Sadly, I get the distinct impression you do not care what you write on this subject, so long as it has the intended emotional appeal.

/discussion

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Grow up. Sorry if I hit a nerve that someone either loves nVidia or works for them.

I asked how the kernel teams from respective operating systems, outside of Windows views this development and you gave me nothing.

We know USB is open. Intel invented it.

With systems being designed to be more conservative on power consumption this architecture shows how one can control this and measure heat transfer conditions inside a case, etc.

This is great for design engineers.

What does this have to do with End Consumers?

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