Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th Nov 2007 21:48 UTC
Windows The breakdown for the various editions of Windows Server 2008 was revealed this morning by Microsoft, and the big news there is the almost total lack of change: Retail server software editions for the next Windows Server will fall right in line with the current Windows Server 2003 R2 editions, including the number of client access licenses provided in the basic package.
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RE[2]: Hope its based on Minwin
by Almafeta on Tue 13th Nov 2007 00:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Hope its based on Minwin"
Almafeta
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2007-02-22

I am not an MS fan. But I was actually pretty excited about the Minwin concept... at first. I really liked the sentiment. But then I took a look at what MS's idea of "min" actually is: http://www4.osnews.com/permalink?280016 61MB, and it can... just... barely... run an in-kernel web server. The video the story that post is attached to emphasizes just how limited minwin's capabilities actually are. So what is it doing with all that virtual memory?


The article you're linking to states 40MB in runtime memory, 25 MB on disc (divided among 100 files).

Besides, Minwin is not meant to run on its lonesome -- although, it would be a neat challenge to wrap as small of a wrapper as possible around it while still keeping it functional and create a "D*** Small Windows."

EDIT: Silly quoting system.

Edited 2007-11-13 00:54 UTC

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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The article you're linking to states 40MB in runtime memory, 25 MB on disc (divided among 100 files).

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Yes. I know it does. But the video clearly shows 61MB of virtual in use. View it and watch carefully. The virtual machine is allocated 39MB of *RAM*. But with plenty of swap to fill in. And minwin is eating generous portions of that.

Of *course* minwin was not meant to run on its own. But as a very limited capability "minimal" core, it is consuming resources that should allow for a full featured server. What's up with that?

I note with amusement your other post criticizing the Unix model's use of memory. I can run a monolithic Linux kernel and lighttpd on a little over 8MB total.

Though it is in multiuser environments, with many users running multiple copies of the same applications that the Unix model really shines.

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