Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Nov 2007 19:49 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris Erstwhile bitter rivals Dell and Sun Microsystems are set to announce that Sun's Solaris and OpenSolaris operating systems will be supported in all of Dell's servers. Dell founder and CEO Michael Dell and Sun Microsystems CEO Jonathan Schwartz plan to make the announcement during a joint appearance at the Oracle OpenWorld 2007 conference today.
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RE: Strange move
by zizban on Wed 14th Nov 2007 20:38 UTC in reply to "Strange move"
zizban
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2005-07-06

No, Sun has been expanding their OEM program for the last couple of years. The sparc hardware isn't going anywhere, this is just another option for those considering Solaris.

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RE[2]: Strange move
by shaniadollinger on Wed 14th Nov 2007 20:55 in reply to "RE: Strange move"
shaniadollinger Member since:
2007-07-04

You mean considering OpenSolaris, don' you ? They are not the same right now to my knowledge.

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RE[3]: Strange move
by whartung on Wed 14th Nov 2007 21:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Strange move"
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2005-07-06

I imagine he means both. The article says that Dell is offering both Solaris and OpenSolaris.

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RE[2]: Strange move
by Adurbe on Wed 14th Nov 2007 21:26 in reply to "RE: Strange move"
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2005-07-06

what do you mean sparc i going nowhere?! Have you used a T1? They are incredibly powerful! Or do you mean sparc is going nowhere in the direction you happen to use it (desktop x86 based systems?)

I hope sparc and the power chips keep getting developed. In my eyes there is no point fighting out of a software lockin to just to enter a hardware one...

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RE[3]: Strange move
by Don T. Bothers on Wed 14th Nov 2007 21:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Strange move"
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2006-03-15

"what do you mean sparc i going nowhere?! Have you used a T1? They are incredibly powerful! Or do you mean sparc is going nowhere in the direction you happen to use it (desktop x86 based systems?) "

I think he means that SPARC is not being phased out, that it is going to still be around, and that you can still purchase it from Sun.

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RE[3]: Strange move
by aliquis on Wed 14th Nov 2007 21:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Strange move"
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2005-07-23

With going nowhere he means that they are here to stay.

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RE[3]: Strange move
by butters on Wed 14th Nov 2007 22:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Strange move"
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2005-07-08

Sun faces some serious challenges on the SPARC side of its business, especially in terms of performance per thread. I don't think it's feasible in the long-run for Sun to compete with AMD and Intel for serialized workloads. Sun's greatest hardware strength from its up-market pedigree is in system architecture, whereas it never moved the volume required to excel in the modern processor market.

I agree that Sun looks very strong at the moment in thread-dense boxes for transaction computing. However, both Intel and AMD have mini-cores coming in 2009-10 that will scale down to ultra-mobile and tile up to massively-multithreaded rack servers that will compete with Sun's Niagara/Rock descendants. On the other hand, I could definitely see Sun as the leading OEM for these Intel/AMD-based thread monsters.

In my eyes there is no point fighting out of a software lockin to just to enter a hardware one...


I don't understand. There are very few operating systems and applications that don't run on x86, and plenty of them run on SPARC and POWER as well. There's no lock-in. The proprietary software vendors that ignore SPARC and POWER do so because the niche markets aren't worth their time and resources, not because of any especially onerous barriers to cross-architecture compatibility.

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