Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Nov 2007 21:16 UTC, submitted by Wyatt Lyon Preul
.NET (dotGNU too) Scott Guthrie has announced that Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 are now available for download and provides a tour of some of the new features. "Visual Studio 2008 and .NET 3.5 contain a ton of new functionality and improvements. Below are links to blog posts I've done myself as well as links to videos you can watch to learn more about it."
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RE[4]: Looks fantastic
by google_ninja on Tue 20th Nov 2007 03:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Looks fantastic"
google_ninja
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2006-02-05

All the poster mentioned was CSS and JavaScript support, and quite frankly, Internet Explorer, Microsoft's development tools and proper, standard support of ECMA(Java)Script and Cascading Style Sheets are absolute polar opposites.


Microsofts support of javascript is worse then mozilla, but better then anything else. And as of IE7, their CSS support is pretty much where everyone else is

Quite frankly, I'm distinctly underwhelmed by yet another new version of .Net that no normal person can keep up with. Microsoft simply have too many MSDN lunatics producing too many development tools no sane person can keep up with.


Anyone with half a brain can keep up with it, the last release was 3 years ago.

Edited 2007-11-20 03:58 UTC

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RE[5]: Looks fantastic
by segedunum on Tue 20th Nov 2007 10:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks fantastic"
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2005-07-06

Microsofts support of javascript is worse then mozilla, but better then anything else. And as of IE7, their CSS support is pretty much where everyone else is

Simply not true. Their JavaScript support has always diverged wildly, and the CSS support in IE7 solves none of the incompatibilities. CSS3 is simply not going to happen, and there are still parts of CSS2 that haven't been fixed.

Anyone with half a brain can keep up with it, the last release was 3 years ago.

Worrying about five different versions of .Net to target, with more on the way presumably, is not solving anyone's problems.

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RE[6]: Looks fantastic
by duckie on Tue 20th Nov 2007 12:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks fantastic"
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2006-04-10

"Worrying about five different versions of .Net to target, with more on the way presumably, is not solving anyone's problems."

FUD. Target whatever version you want. Just get the client to install the version you use. You know, you can have all the .net versions installed without any problems.

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RE[6]: Looks fantastic
by google_ninja on Tue 20th Nov 2007 14:37 in reply to "RE[5]: Looks fantastic"
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2006-02-05


Simply not true. Their JavaScript support has always diverged wildly, and the CSS support in IE7 solves none of the incompatibilities. CSS3 is simply not going to happen, and there are still parts of CSS2 that haven't been fixed.


You could say that about their javascript (or jscript as they call it). However, just because document.all exists, doesn't mean document.getElementById doesnt exist. I have had more problems with javascript and safari then javascript and ie.

As for CSS3, nobody supports it because its not that great a spec. CSS2 suppport is better, while not all of the rendering bugs were fixed in IE7, some of them were.

Worrying about five different versions of .Net to target, with more on the way presumably, is not solving anyone's problems.


You get that with any VM language. (java is FAR worse)

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RE[6]: Looks fantastic
by sappyvcv on Tue 20th Nov 2007 16:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Looks fantastic"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Sorry but IE7's javascript and css is still behind both Mozilla and Opera and probably webkit/khtml at this point too (CSS support at least, not sure about JS).

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