Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Nov 2007 16:54 UTC, submitted by lefty78312
Mozilla & Gecko clones The Mozilla Corporation today released Firefox 3 Beta 1, which is now available for download in a variety of languages. The beta includes updates to the default theme, the new places site management features, improved security architecture, and Gecko 1.9. Release notes with a more complete list of features, are also available.
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RE[2]: Native widgets?
by dylansmrjones on Wed 21st Nov 2007 07:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Native widgets?"
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

Actually Firefox 1.x and 2.x does not support widgets on Linux for rendering of web-content. Firefox always use the ugly win95-like buttons - no matter which theme you use.

What can be changed is the look of non-website widgets, e.g. Firefox preferences dialogue, download window, the look of tabs and stuff like that. But comboboxes, buttons, text fields and stuff like that are not themed for page content.

Firefox 3 however has support for native look for widgets in content as well. Place a submit-button on your webpage and it will have the look buttons in your gtk-theme. And that at least is a bit cool. Next problem is the memory leaks and out-of-process loading of plug-ins (read flash and java).

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RE[3]: Native widgets?
by CPUGuy on Wed 21st Nov 2007 13:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Native widgets?"
CPUGuy Member since:
2005-07-06

I beg to differ, as I said, when on Linux I install new widgets.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369596

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RE[4]: Native widgets?
by dylansmrjones on Wed 21st Nov 2007 14:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Native widgets?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

It's an ubuntu-specific solution and has nothing to do with Firefox or widgets as such.

That solution still doesn't follow the native look, but merely allows for some ugly hacking of the look. Of course it might be better than nothing else, but the solution still doesn't make the widgets follow the native look. And the solution is not a Firefox-solution but merely an ubuntu-solution, since Firefox has no such thing as a widget installer.

The moment such widget-'themes' can be installed in the Firefox 'Extensions'-dialogue we might talk about 'Firefox Widgets'. Until then I'm looking forward to Firefox automagically theming the widgets according to the GTK+-theme in use.

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RE[3]: Native widgets?
by wirespot on Wed 21st Nov 2007 18:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Native widgets?"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

As a matter of fact, I'm not all that keen on native widgets in web pages. As far as style is concerned, there's no telling whether they will match the look and feel of the page. And I do hope they're still going to allow the web page to override via CSS, in which case native widgets are mostly for nothing. I'm not at all sure this was a feature worth putting effort into. It's pure eye-candy. I'm sure there are others more useful. I'd gladly give up native widgets for less consumed RAM or snappier startup when I have many extensions loaded.

Edited 2007-11-21 18:39

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RE[4]: Native widgets?
by dylansmrjones on Wed 21st Nov 2007 19:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Native widgets?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Of course it should still be overridden by CSS. That's for sure. But there are many websites that don't theme widgets at all. Those ought to follow the native theme.

But widgets theme by websites should stay untouched. It looks really ugly otherwise (konqueror is a sinner here - it uses the colors from css on widgets from the KDE-theme in use - doesn't fit when playing online RPG ;) )

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