Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Nov 2007 11:12 UTC, submitted by trinitrotolueen
Mac OS X "This is something I never thought I'd hear myself say - or maybe I should say, see myself type - about an Apple operating system: Mac OSX Leopard was released before it was ready. This operating system needed more testing on more systems with more hardware, and especially, more software configurations. The days of Apple computers operating with just the Mac OS and Adobe Photoshop installed, and practically nothing else to speak of, are long gone, and Apple knows this as well as anyone. This operating system was not properly beta tested, and Apple's customers are paying for it, with lost productivity and inoperative computers."
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The Vista syndrome ?
by Caraibes on Sun 25th Nov 2007 12:25 UTC
Caraibes
Member since:
2007-08-06

-What is happening to the major companies ?

We had Vista released and forced on us, knowing it is a BAD OS... Now Leopard is being said in "beta" stage !!!

I'll happily stick to Fedora, Mandriva and Debian, then !!!

But for regular folks, OSX tiger should be a good choice, or even winxp...

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RE: The Vista syndrome ?
by lucifer on Sun 25th Nov 2007 12:36 in reply to "The Vista syndrome ?"
lucifer Member since:
2006-08-20

"forced"??? get a life!

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RE: The Vista syndrome ?
by lucifer on Sun 25th Nov 2007 12:43 in reply to "The Vista syndrome ?"
lucifer Member since:
2006-08-20

"forced"??? get a life!

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RE: The Vista syndrome ?
by sultanqasim on Sun 25th Nov 2007 17:45 in reply to "The Vista syndrome ?"
sultanqasim Member since:
2006-10-28

Vista - about 25% of the users have serious problems and most of them have compatibility problems.

Leopard - About 5% report serious problems and 20% report minor compatibility problems.

Big difference.

KDE shows some little crash avery 5 minutes (thought usually you cant tell what crashed) and its apps are as buggy as hell. GNOME is better in overall stability but some of its apps (ie. gPhoto/gThumb) are essentially unusably buggy.

Everything has problems but some have more than others.

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RE[2]: The Vista syndrome ?
by MollyC on Sun 25th Nov 2007 19:44 in reply to "RE: The Vista syndrome ?"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

"Vista - about 25% of the users have serious problems and most of them have compatibility problems.

Leopard - About 5% report serious problems and 20% report minor compatibility problems.

Big difference.


From where are you getting these numbers? (I was tempted to say, "From what orifice are you pulling these numbers?", oh, I just did. :p)

I'm sure that Leopard works fine on the vast majority of systems; you're always going to hear about problems more than about "no problems here", because the problems are more likely to be reported. But Apple fans should remember that when bashing non-Apple products based on reported problems.

That being said, I have to post these links, because they're pretty funny:
This is a post by Rob Hyndman, telling of the nightmare that his Leopard upgrade has been, calling it the "without a doubt this upgrade is the worst OS upgrade experience Iíve ever had."
http://www.robhyndman.com/2007/11/14/ive-been-attacked-by-a-leopard...

Now, the problems he describes are interesting, but what's really interesting is that the Jobs worshippers came out in full force to rip him to shreds. Then, a couple days layter, Rob Hyndman calls out the Jobs worhippers for their irrational behavior:
http://www.robhyndman.com/2007/11/15/your-leopard-is-eating-my-self...


Another blogger, Scoble (whom I can't stand, since he's the typical "know-it-all" tech blogger) posted a few entries on how Leopard trashed his system, and taking Apple to task for their "brand promise" and smugness. But eventually he says he's staying with Macs because he's locked himself into Apple software (vendor lock-in, anyone?). (note that Scoble worked at Microsoft a couple years ago, but since then became a big Apple consumer, buying multiple Macs, multiple iPhones, multiple iPods, AppleTV, Apple's high-end video software, etc; he has fully embraced the Apple lifestyle):
http://scobleizer.com/2007/11/16/caught-in-apple-restart-hell/
http://scobleizer.com/2007/11/17/the-brand-promise-of-apple/
http://scobleizer.com/2007/11/17/twitter-reactions-to-apples-os-upd...
http://scobleizer.com/2007/11/20/why-im-buying-another-mac/

Edited 2007-11-25 19:53

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RE[2]: The Vista syndrome ?
by gjames on Sun 25th Nov 2007 19:46 in reply to "RE: The Vista syndrome ?"
gjames Member since:
2005-07-07

... and in other news 95% of statistics posted without a source are purely ficticious and intended only to prove the author's point. ;)

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RE[2]: The Vista syndrome ?
by BluenoseJake on Mon 26th Nov 2007 18:26 in reply to "RE: The Vista syndrome ?"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

"Vista - about 25% of the users have serious problems and most of them have compatibility problems.

Leopard - About 5% report serious problems and 20% report minor compatibility problems.

Big difference."

Nice statistics, wouldn't mind seeing something to back it up, because I believe your numbers on Vista problems may be inflated

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v RE: The Vista syndrome ?
by tomcat on Mon 26th Nov 2007 23:56 in reply to "The Vista syndrome ?"