Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Nov 2007 23:31 UTC
Gnome "The GNOME Foundation has issued a statement in response to recent accusations that it has been supporting the acceptance of Microsoft's Office Open XML format as an ECMA standard at the expense of the Open Document Format, the open standard used by OpenOffice.org, KOffice and other free software office applications. However, whether the statement's attempt at logical rebuttal will do anything to reduce the emotions or altruism behind the criticisms is anybody's guess."
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by segedunum on Sun 25th Nov 2007 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

Tha'ts what KDE developers say, but is not true, lets say they just say it to sleep well, but DCOP was a mess by it self that needed to be rewrited

DCOP was written because CORBA was a God-awful mess, and judging from the usage of Bonobo in Gnome, that was the right technical decision. DBUS is a direct descendant of that thinking.

Imposing a format over the user needs doesn't makes free software better than MS, simple as that.

Users don't care about formats. They open a file, it opens and they work with it.

anything you put for push your agenda in the users trougth just makes you the same or worse than MS.

All we want is a format that everyone can reasonably implement and use. I don't think that's unreasonable.

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by Hiev on Mon 26th Nov 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE[5]: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

DCOP was written because CORBA was a God-awful mess

Well, try to fix a mess with another mess like DCOP is ridiculos.

Users don't care about formats. They open a file, it opens and they work with it.

Not technically, but if they see that there documents are not suported in n suite just because some developer tryied to puch an agenda it is.

But you do know that.

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by anda_skoa on Mon 26th Nov 2007 11:13 in reply to "RE[6]: ..."
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

Well, try to fix a mess with another mess like DCOP is ridiculos.


No, since it is less a mess than CORBA for the things it was needed for, it is an improvement.

D-Bus takes the same principles and expands the scope, e.g. system bus.
Again an improvement.

We tend to call this succession of improvements progress and the staying at worst solution stagnation.

Since in your opinion seems to be that the direction is reversed, i.e. D-Bus is worse than CORBA for the needs of desktop IPC, you can of course call it a regression. You probably won't get a lot of followers though

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