Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Nov 2007 23:31 UTC
Gnome "The GNOME Foundation has issued a statement in response to recent accusations that it has been supporting the acceptance of Microsoft's Office Open XML format as an ECMA standard at the expense of the Open Document Format, the open standard used by OpenOffice.org, KOffice and other free software office applications. However, whether the statement's attempt at logical rebuttal will do anything to reduce the emotions or altruism behind the criticisms is anybody's guess."
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by jdub on Mon 26th Nov 2007 12:32 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
jdub
Member since:
2005-08-19

Aaron, we were not involved in OOXML's creation, nor are we contributing to it becoming an ISO standard. Microsoft dumped the spec on ECMA, Jody has been pushing them hard to release relevant documentation for as much of it as he can.

That has actually been of material benefit to the fight against OOXML in ISO, given that Jody has blown out the OOXML specification size pretty well. :-)

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by segedunum on Mon 26th Nov 2007 19:30 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

That has actually been of material benefit to the fight against OOXML in ISO, given that Jody has blown out the OOXML specification size pretty well. :-)

What OOXML specification?

It doesn't matter what the published spec is. The only defacto standard that matters is Microsoft's implementation, and it's already out there. That implementation can, and probably will, change as and when Microsoft sees fit with no regard whatsoever to the published specification.

What is Jody going to be using as his test suite for OOXML? If it's Office 2007, I rest my case.

Anyone who cannot see that is an idiot.

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by Hiev on Mon 26th Nov 2007 20:45 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Im afraid the only idiot here is you.

You speculate to much of what MS will do with OOXML without probes, and you will recall history saying "MS have done that and that and other". Get a life.

Even if it happens, do you think GNOME is going to be the only one affected? KOffice, Qt, OpenOffice all those are going to be affected because they will implement it too.

BTW. Do you recall them to have changed the .DOC format? no? of course not. They did just in versioning.

Like I said, you are just blinded by choice.

Edited 2007-11-26 20:48

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by aseigo on Tue 27th Nov 2007 00:02 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
aseigo Member since:
2005-07-06

hey jeff =)

"we were not involved in OOXML's creation,"

the whole point of Jody being involved with the ECMA group is to help have a say in OOXML isn't it? that's pretty much "involved in OOXML's creation". perhaps the word "creation" is incorrect; let me replace that with the word "development".

"nor are we contributing to it becoming an ISO standard"

that's merely an unintended side effect of this. i certainly don't believe it is the intention, however. it sucks when intention and results don't match up, i know. =/

p.s. see you at l.c.a in january =))

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by jdub on Tue 27th Nov 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
jdub Member since:
2005-08-19

the whole point of Jody being involved with the ECMA group is to help have a say in OOXML isn't it?


No. OOXML was very much Microsoft's creation, dumped on ECMA. As noted in the statement and my comment earlier, Jody is there to get as much documentation out of them as possible.

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