Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Nov 2007 21:36 UTC, submitted by Coldfirex
SkyOS SkyOS build 6814 has been released. Among its new features are streaming support, system-wide spell checking, the Mozilla embedded Gecko engine (which is used to create a few applications like a Wikipedia reader), an updated Viewer (file manager), a new theme engine, and more.
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proprietary fasion
by nulleight on Tue 27th Nov 2007 14:00 UTC
nulleight
Member since:
2007-06-22

I think that "project to stray off" argument is not valid because you can solve it with a proper license. Example - haiku os is a specific distribution, and to call it haiku os it still has to have specific components. You can still sell things with open source license and i bet people will pay you( i would and i never bought a os ). Example - quake3.

Now lets have an mind experiment: remove freetype from skyos - we get ugly fonts. Reimplementing a font rendering is a tremendous task, you also have to be aware of alot of patent mines here. Remove gecko - you make this os useles for like 90% of computer users. No binuils - no bash - have anyone used default shell on solaris? Remove cups - you have to reimplement and reverse engineer all the printer drivers. Remove openbfs - and you have to design a filesystem - and i mean "design" which requires years of experience not something you can do over the weekend. You can do desktop search over the weekend but not design a filesystem. If you want to see how robert desings things - look at the old skyos api which is very reminescent of windows one. Designing an os - this is taught in every cs course. This os is not even exiting to use like macos or beos.

When you click on screenshots i see for example familiar nuvola icon theme which i use in kde. I see a crappy media player ( I wonder how long till the y port vlc ). I mean i browse screenshots and see - blender, kaffee, even the control center looks like kde one. I mean come on, we all learned from microsoft that if you get a proprietary os pill - it will be sweet at first but it will choke you in the end if it becomes popular enough and kills the competition.

"No codecs for you, nope alternative os users. No movies for you to donwload, no itunes store to use, no business documents to edit cause they are all .doc, no source to create alternatives cause it's all ours, our treasure( gollum voice here). Now pay up slaves!"

Edited 2007-11-27 14:02

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RE: proprietary fasion
by Darkness on Tue 27th Nov 2007 14:27 in reply to "proprietary fasion"
Darkness Member since:
2005-08-27

Example - quake3.
Now that is not such a good example actually...

quake3 was only open sourced when the successor was about to be released. It had been sold closed source up till then.

But your point is valid, you can sell open source software. Usually this is in a form of added value or services.

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RE: proprietary fasion
by Almafeta on Tue 27th Nov 2007 14:52 in reply to "proprietary fasion"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

Now lets have an mind experiment: remove freetype from skyos - we get ugly fonts.


Oh noes. Sometimes a serif font might have a funny thing poking down. Surely, this calls for the injection of copyleft cruft.

Remove gecko - you make this os useles for like 90% of computer users.


Gecko was only added this release -- and removing cruft like Gecko will not disable legit software like SkyKruiser.

No binuils - no bash - have anyone used default shell on solaris?


If you need to use a text shell to do any task in an OS, then you have failed in your design.

Remove openbfs - and you have to design a filesystem


Like SkyFS?

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RE[2]: proprietary fasion
by zizban on Tue 27th Nov 2007 15:09 in reply to "RE: proprietary fasion"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

Firefox was ported awhile ago. The embedded gecko widgets are new.

SkyKruiser? That hasn't worked on SkyOS since version 4.

SkyFS is based on a heavily modified openbfs so the point remains valid.

And what's wrong with a shell? You dotn need to ever use the shell on SkyOS or even Mac OS X, but its there for those who wish to use it.

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RE[2]: proprietary fasion
by Vanders on Tue 27th Nov 2007 15:19 in reply to "RE: proprietary fasion"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh noes. Sometimes a serif font might have a funny thing poking down. Surely, this calls for the injection of copyleft cruft.


You really don't have the slightest idea how complex an issue this sort of stuff is, do you?

Gecko was only added this release -- and removing cruft like Gecko will not disable legit software like SkyKruiser.


SkyKruiser, which is based on KHTML, which is Open Source? Oh noes!

Almafeta, we get it. You don't like Open Source. We don't really know why and I doubt many people are all that interested in an explanation, but we get it. Now could you kindly stop injecting your pointless and ill informed commentary into every discussion on OSNews? It would really help.

Edit: Tag soup.

Edited 2007-11-27 15:20

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