Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 8th Sep 2005 16:53 UTC
Gnome The Gnome Project released version 2.12 yesterday. We had a quick look at it by using the latest Gnome Live CD (1.12-pre) and Foresight 0.9.0 (2.12 final) and here are our thoughts over 2.12 and Gnome's status in general.
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RE[2]: Gnome is overrated...
by poofyhairguy on Thu 8th Sep 2005 23:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Gnome is overrated..."
poofyhairguy
Member since:
2005-07-14

Performance:
Gnome feels much faster with video hardware that supports acceleration of the Render extension, it also is noticably faster when using a compositing manager, of course this results in more instability of X.



Its funny that you say that, because its Gnome (not XFCE or KDE) that refuses to add a decent composite manager built into its window manager (metacity). All the other major DE's has this.

Because of this, I plan to move to KDE when 3.5 comes (aka with a more stable compmgr) despite using Gnome for a year. I'm working now to make KDE look more like Gnome now. Gnome's stance on hardware acceration sucks, I wish they didn't punish those of us with Nvidia cards just because our drivers are closed and because no other cards can do it yet.

Your point is a very weak one.

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RE[3]: Gnome is overrated...
by ma_d on Thu 8th Sep 2005 23:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Gnome is overrated..."
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

Actually, kwin's compositor is so bad it's unusable.. Xfwm4's is awesome, it almost works. But kwin's is just baaaad (or at least the 3.4.0 one was).
Also, xapp's will composite anything. Gnome is right to not include one; it'd just be a lot of extra list traffic like this:
"my compositor doesn't work"
"unsupported, shutup."
"are you gonna fix it?"
"unsupported, shutup."
"why do you tell me to shutup?"
"rtfm"
"but it's in there, so isn't it supported?"
"NO, leave us alone already!"

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poofyhairguy Member since:
2005-07-14

Actually, kwin's compositor is so bad it's unusable.. Xfwm4's is awesome, it almost works. But kwin's is just baaaad (or at least the 3.4.0 one was).

I think it was a direct fork of the now dead xcompmgr. Thats why I plan to move to KDE in 3.5, when some of the bugs are worked out.

Gnome is right to not include one; it'd just be a lot of extra list traffic like this:

Well, if Gnome wants Metacity to continue to be a blight on the entire DE then I will not stand in their way. But I will say that an accerated desktop is about more than eye candy, and no Window Manager in existance needs compositing more than Metacity (its the only thing that makes the draw black crap all over your screen when minimizing "feature" tolerable).

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